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H+ is Dish's gradual shift from Sat to Streaming. It isn't the replacement of the H3 as much the next step in their transition away from Sat.
Yes, and as I said in another thread, Dish's next step after that should be to put the Hopper+ functionality inside a new receiver, instead of requiring an additional add-on box. Since we apparently don't need a Hopper 4 yet (they would have released one already if we did, since Hopper 3 came out six years ago at this point) the next most logical step would be a Hopper Duo+.
 
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Anyone remember the DISH DVD Player? :D

I don't know why DISH is obsessed with stuffing other media into their receivers, at least they wised up before launching that DVD player and realized that it was a bad idea. I think $499 was the price they were targeting.

If you want to watch YouTube or Netflix, what's wrong with the apps built into the TV or a $15 streaming stick?
 
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I don't know why DISH is obsessed with stuffing other media into their receivers, at least they wised up before launching that DVD player and realized that it was a bad idea. I think $499 was the price they were targeting.
Oh! I thought Scott was joking. Was it something like a 301 or 501 + a DVD player?

I did enjoy the media player in my H3 which existed for awhile and could play my DVD copies (mpeg2 program streams) off a NAS without issue. That is something that Roku could never do.
 
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Oh! I thought Scott was joking. Was it something like a 301 or 501 + a DVD player?

I did enjoy the media player in my H3 which existed for awhile and could play my DVD copies (mpeg2 program streams) off a NAS without issue. That is something that Roku could never do.

It was based off the old 5000, basically just a 5000 with a DVD player built in. It never was released, they couldn't get the firmware right and during engineering the price of DVD players plummeted. Although the receiver was never released, a bunch of the remotes ended up on ebay.
 
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If you want to watch YouTube or Netflix, what's wrong with the apps built into the TV or a $15 streaming stick?
People with TV's old enough not to have the built-in apps probably also don't have enough inputs available to be able to add a streaming stick, especially with one of those other inputs already being tied up by a separate DVD player. ;)

It was based off the old 5000, basically just a 5000 with a DVD player built in. It never was released, they couldn't get the firmware right and during engineering the price of DVD players plummeted. Although the receiver was never released, a bunch of the remotes ended up on ebay.
If they had gotten it working, at least presumably the DVD player part would still be functional to this day. Since the 5000 doesn't do 8PSK, it would now be a brick as far as a satellite receiver. Is there any built-in functionality or accessory for the 5000 that still works today, other than the remotes? I think there was a way to integrate OTA, but even that module would be kind of clunky by today's standards, and it might have been analog only. :eeek
 
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People with TV's old enough not to have the built-in apps probably also don't have enough inputs available to be able to add a streaming stick, especially with one of those other inputs already being tied up by a separate DVD player. ;)


If they had gotten it working, at least presumably the DVD player part would still be functional to this day. Since the 5000 doesn't do 8PSK, it would now be a brick as far as a satellite receiver. Is there any built-in functionality or accessory for the 5000 that still works today, other than the remotes? I think there was a way to integrate OTA, but even that module would be kind of clunky by today's standards, and it might have been analog only. :eeek

Yes, the 5000 was the first to integrate OTA analog into the guide using the optional tuner module. Later they had an HD module that would plug into the expansion slot allowing for the first HD channel broadcast on DISH. It modulated the signal to channel 3, so you had to have an HDTV with an HD tuner. Really odd setup they cobbled together until they got the 6000 launched.
 
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I don't know why DISH is obsessed with stuffing other media into their receivers, at least they wised up before launching that DVD player and realized that it was a bad idea. I think $499 was the price they were targeting.

If you want to watch YouTube or Netflix, what's wrong with the apps built into the TV or a $15 streaming stick?
I wonder why they couldn't just stick the streaming stick into the usb port of the hopper and you would see it when you wanted to go on other apps?
 
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I wonder why they couldn't just stick the streaming stick into the usb port of the hopper and you would see it when you wanted to go on other apps?
If they built a dedicated input into the Hopper, then you could tune to a channel in the guide to access that input, and see whatever device you had connected to it. Wasn't there a really old model of Dish receiver that actually had an input? If I remember correctly, it appeared as channel 0 in the guide. That was only a standard-def input, though. It may be tricky to do it with HDMI, and even trickier to do it with USB as you suggested. What you describe is basically how the Hopper+ connects, but even then it is relying on the built-in Sling functionality of the Hopper to make it work. So, only certain models of Hopper can even make that solution work.
 
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remember when dish was giving out big screen t.v.s if you signed up with em
Yes, their "HDTV in a box" promotion. It came bundled with a model 811 receiver, and everything you needed to hook it up. (That included a dish upgrade and professional installation, if I remember correctly.) I almost took Dish up on that offer. What stopped me was that they had already announced on a Tech Forum that there would be new HD receivers coming out eventually that would handle MPEG-4, and the 811 was only capable of MPEG-2. So, I decided to wait for the newer HD receiver models before upgrading, and I eventually got a ViP211. If I had done the "HDTV in a box" promo, that would have been my first HDTV.
 

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