Pricing Update from Dish Network

E charges tax on a imbeded lease fee for primary receiver of 9 bucks per month. Sure its just 64 cents a month but I OWN my receiver and shouldnt have to pay tax on it.

Basic stuff is supposed to be sales tax free in PA last time I checked
I own my receiver too. I still don't get it why did they charge tax one month and not the next?:confused:
 
I am probably going with comcast but will also buy or burn DVDs of my favorite higher tier channel shows like many on national geo.

Then we can get a new provider, and save tons more.

E no longer earns my business, they now earn my scorn............

I just need some time, right now I am VERY BUSY. which is best but leaves me little time and energy to rewire, clean up shop and garage, take down some shelves so comacst installer has room to work.
 
I am just waiting for the ceton tuner to come out and I am leaving. I've got Media center working fine with OTA. I just need the ceton card and I will switch to FIOS.

10 years ago, DISH was great. They made the cable company look like an uncaring greedy "pig". They have certainly changed over the last 10 years.

I know "business is business", but I feel I need a change now.
 
I am just waiting for the ceton tuner to come out and I am leaving. I've got Media center working fine with OTA. I just need the ceton card and I will switch to FIOS.

10 years ago, DISH was great. They made the cable company look like an uncaring greedy "pig". They have certainly changed over the last 10 years.

I know "business is business", but I feel I need a change now.


whats a ceton tuner? never heard of that.

just look what occured, beancounters ruled at cable, and e sprang to life with charlies you asked for it you got it, charlie chats were wonderful people would call in with problems and they would get the CEOs attention.

now beancounters rule at E, the charlie chat never has a complaint call, chucks handlers keep him in the dark, the chat now just a marketing tool..

one day soon e will wonder what went wrong.

E made cable better:) Cable has improved t meet the competition.

E has gotten worse.........
 
Ceton Tuner will have 4 tuners and a cable card slot. You put it in your windows media center PC and stream content to your xbox or and "extender".

I have a OTA dual tuner in it now. Works fine. I just added a 1 TB drive for recorded shows. I have been slowly adding to my setup to avoid a big one time charge. I wasn't sure that it was the direction I wanted to go or not.

I'm getting out of "feasibility" and now I just need a cable card tuner and I'm ready to go.
 
almost $500

Ceton Tuner will have 4 tuners and a cable card slot. You put it in your windows media center PC and stream content to your xbox or and "extender".

I have a OTA dual tuner in it now. Works fine. I just added a 1 TB drive for recorded shows. I have been slowly adding to my setup to avoid a big one time charge. I wasn't sure that it was the direction I wanted to go or not.

I'm getting out of "feasibility" and now I just need a cable card tuner and I'm ready to go.

That card is going to be close to $500. That's a L of a lot of money for a tuner card.
 
Ceton Tuner will have 4 tuners and a cable card slot. You put it in your windows media center PC and stream content to your xbox or and "extender".

I have a OTA dual tuner in it now. Works fine. I just added a 1 TB drive for recorded shows. I have been slowly adding to my setup to avoid a big one time charge. I wasn't sure that it was the direction I wanted to go or not.

I'm getting out of "feasibility" and now I just need a cable card tuner and I'm ready to go.

It still works out as a pretty expensive solution. You still need a full featured PC and another tuner if you want analog cable channels. Of course since you already have a dedicated PC you will not have the big up front expense.

You also have to keep up with any of the cable company changes to digital channels.
 
I look at it this way... I pay $XX a month to "rent" my DVRs. Over Y months, I will get my money back. I've been renting from Dish for almost 10 years. That would have gotten me a few PCs and cards already.
 
I look at it this way... I pay $XX a month to "rent" my DVRs. Over Y months, I will get my money back. I've been renting from Dish for almost 10 years. That would have gotten me a few PCs and cards already.

actually, you are leasing the receivers, not renting them...
 
That would have gotten me a few PCs and cards already.
And as every upgrade and change came along, you would have to upgrade tuner cards. If your the OTA type, you had to upgraded to a DTV tuner. If your the cable type, you had to upgrade to QAM and then to CableCard and soon to whatever (if anything) replaces CableCard and/or makes SDV available to an HTPC.
 
From wiki-answers.

And the difference is ... ?

The difference is the length of time a property is being rented.

A lease implies a longer term such as a year.

[This is from the library at Findlaw.com]

If you're leasing, you've usually signed something saying you're committed to staying in that place for a certain length of time and will pay $xxx amount of rent every month for the term of that lease.

Another important difference is the value of the underlying good. If you rent something the value of the good is not meant to change, whereas if you lease something your are actually amortizing the good and have the option to buy it at the end of the least for its residual value in most countries.
 
The difference is the length of time a property is being rented.

A lease implies a longer term such as a year.

[This is from the library at Findlaw.com]

If you're leasing, you've usually signed something saying you're committed to staying in that place for a certain length of time and will pay $xxx amount of rent every month for the term of that lease.

Another important difference is the value of the underlying good. If you rent something the value of the good is not meant to change, whereas if you lease something your are actually amortizing the good and have the option to buy it at the end of the least for its residual value in most countries.

So, if you have to write a check to your landlord, do you say you are "paying the lease" or "paying the rent"? For the purposes of this forum, the terms are interchangeable. Yes, there may be subtle legal differences, but it isn't really important to the purpose of this thread.
 
asked & answered

So, if you have to write a check to your landlord, do you say you are "paying the lease" or "paying the rent"? For the purposes of this forum, the terms are interchangeable. Yes, there may be subtle legal differences, but it isn't really important to the purpose of this thread.
You asked I found an answer. There is a subtle difference. With E* we do have contracts for a certain length of time so by that fact we have a lease.
 
With E* we do have contracts for a certain length of time so by that fact we have a lease.
DISH Network, DIRECTV, wireless and cable companies seem to favor the term "commitment".

The distinction is important as some taxing jurisdictions rate rentals and leases differently.
 
The way I look at is this.

Lease implies that you own the product so D*/E* are not responsible for repairs, even though we never actually have the option to buy the residual out at the end of the contract ( 2 year commitment). Like with a car.

Rent implies the E* or D* would still be legal owner of the product and be responsible for repairs.

Personally, I see TV service no different that cell phone service. You purchase a phone at a discounted rate in turn signing a commitment period for the reduced rate of hardware.

The difference is TV service providers that Lease and expect the product returned are just greedy, these high end smart phones are just as expensive as any HD DVR to produce but yet we get to keep those after contract is up and even if we terminate early.

Also the Cell phone companies (I believe, I may be wrong on this) are not allowed to change your price without offering you the out of your contract.
 
In the beginning dish was cheaper with the dual tuner receivers, which was a great selling point and a big reason why i chose them instead of dtv. Now i have to pay 17 dollars instead of the 7 I was paying. I guess they are starting now to try and get some of the money they will need to pay tivo.
 
Well, being I am on paperless billing and autopay to get the .01 Cinemax deal, I didn't even know about the price increases, until I just went to Dish site, for customer support, and saw my bill. Out of sight, out of mind.

My bill went up over $20! You have got to be kidding me. My contract expires in July, and I am a goner.

It was bad enough they didn't have MLB Network....now this? Give me a break. Sayonara
 
Well, being I am on paperless billing and autopay to get the .01 Cinemax deal, I didn't even know about the price increases, until I just went to Dish site, for customer support, and saw my bill. Out of sight, out of mind.

My bill went up over $20! You have got to be kidding me. My contract expires in July, and I am a goner.

It was bad enough they didn't have MLB Network....now this? Give me a break. Sayonara

Bye :wave :wave :wave :wave :wave
 
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Well, being I am on paperless billing and autopay to get the .01 Cinemax deal, I didn't even know about the price increases, until I just went to Dish site, for customer support, and saw my bill. Out of sight, out of mind.

My bill went up over $20! You have got to be kidding me. My contract expires in July, and I am a goner.

It was bad enough they didn't have MLB Network....now this? Give me a break. Sayonara

13 of it could be the max penny deal is gone on your account. Do you have several receivers or DVR's ?
 

Are the transponders changes permanent?

922 pausing every two to three minutes?

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