NCAA Football 2012-13 off season

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I don't see VT having no easier of a schedule than other years, they play some damn good teams every year and this year is no different. Miami is away (always a hard game), Clemson is away so that will be a hard game... FSU comes to Blacksburg but they are never a push over and I hope to see both teams undefeated in this game. I'll be tailgating all day Labor day for the GT game and fired up by game time...as for going undefeated it could happen but they are not playing in cupcake schedule by no means. USC looks to have a decent schedule to make a run, don't see anyone really on theirs to hold them up cept for 1-3 teams unless they get upset which could happen and I'm going to pull for whoever they play just cause I can't stand USC.

If I had to take a pick based on exactly what lsilvest said then it would be USC vs FSU/VT in the national championship game cause each FSU and VT could help each other by a win over the other - NOT once but TWICE as they could meet again in the ACC champ game and the other team still be in the top10.


VTech plays in the ACC... How much of an easier schedule do you need? The ACC hasn't had a positive OOC win % in a long time. Specially in bowl season (and even against the big least!!!)

You have VTech, FSU and Clemson thats about it. And even those three have not had any major victories as of late (well well give FSU a win over FLA even though they were barely 8th best in the sec last year) But South Carolina the SEC East champ Dominated the ACC champ Clemson.

I certainly agree though that if the ACC hopes to put a team in the national title game this maybe the year to do it. I do not see a undefeated team in the SEC, big 10, big 12 etc. USC has a great shot at being undefeated in the very weak pac 10. Their only challenge being Oregon. But as we know USC has a history of losing the games they shouldn't.

So the National title game is really for VTech or FSU or Clemson to take if they do not slip. I cant leave Clemson out I mean after all they completely DESTROYED Vtech in the conference title game last year, so they could be the sleeper in the ACC as everyone is talking about FSU/Vtech.
 
SOS is just lame to even follow... preseason ranks are stupid. What happened to Clemson is just them being, well "Clemson". They played great against VT both times - I know I saw one game live so their loss to WVA was just them doing what they have always done best which is play great for most of the regular season and then flop. The ACC has some great teams this year even if some are not "ranked" in this lame thing we call a pre-season poll. The way I see it is both FSU and VT stand a damn good chance at running the table and playing the other again still being ranked in the top 10 cause on their first meeting they could both very well be at or in the top 5 by that November night.


SOS is lame to follow? How is that logical? I guess we should send Boise state to the title game every year, because they went undefeated in one of the crappiest conferences in the NCAA.... SOS matters big time, its why a 1 loss SEC Champion will get in over an undefeated ACC champion. And what happened to Clemson was typical for the ACC period. Last year VTech played no one. The one team they played who was highly ranked (Clemson) beat them badly. Twice.. Then in the bowl game VTech plays one hell of a game and got edged out by a Michigan team that is rebuilding.

Could you point out to us who are the "great" teams in the ACC.

Great of course to me means they have a solid chance to beat any team in the league. Im having trouble finding one last year who beat any team of note?
 
Anyone that plays any of the fantasy games has seen that it's very limited to make points on picks for defenses the last couple of years.

So, question is: Is the proliferation of high-powered offenses making the defenses look bad, or are bad defenses making these offenses look good?
 
SOS is lame to follow? How is that logical? I guess we should send Boise state to the title game every year, because they went undefeated in one of the crappiest conferences in the NCAA.... SOS matters big time, its why a 1 loss SEC Champion will get in over an undefeated ACC champion. And what happened to Clemson was typical for the ACC period. Last year VTech played no one. The one team they played who was highly ranked (Clemson) beat them badly. Twice.. Then in the bowl game VTech plays one hell of a game and got edged out by a Michigan team that is rebuilding. Could you point out to us who are the "great" teams in the ACC. Great of course to me means they have a solid chance to beat any team in the league. Im having trouble finding one last year who beat any team of note?
the SOS is flawed in every sense of its form till you really get into the meat of a teams schedule as it is all speculation and nothing more. Clemson was a damn good team last year but they do best and that is beat themselves - the loss to WVU was a bad one indeed but that wasn't VT's fault. The loss to Michigan in OT wasn't nothing either - VT lost but it was a very close and awesome game to watch and did go into OT - you gotta have a winner and a loser but either way rebuilding or not VT played like a champ in that game and got ripped off by a bad call that YES the guy in charge of the Ref's for College Football came out to say that catch in the end zone (CATCH) by Danny Coale should have not been over turned but left to stand...now would VT still win, who knows nobody knows but its crap like that which really drives people nuts when you ruin a good game with bad calls. Reminds me of the one back in 2004 with VT against #1 USC that may have cost VT the game, nobody will ever know otherwise. I don't get why all the ACC hate here.... they have some GREAT teams every single one of them have had great runs and do great things so lets just stop with all the hate and lets just prepare for a good season coming, I'm excited and for that here watch this, certainly got me fired up! GO HOKIES! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrTmaypDWFI
 
The ACC "should" have some great teams, but for whatever reason, the powerhouse conference that could never has lived up to expectations on the football field.

I remember when they moved to 12, I was thinking, wow. FSU, Miami, Clemson, Ga Tech, Va Tech....that conference will be strong. Reality however has been a different story.
 
The ACC "should" have some great teams, but for whatever reason, the powerhouse conference that could never has lived up to expectations on the football field. I remember when they moved to 12, I was thinking, wow. FSU, Miami, Clemson, Ga Tech, Va Tech....that conference will be strong. Reality however has been a different story.
You really can't blame any of these teams.. they beat themselves up every year like any other conf. They all had their chances but its what is this year is important, I don't look at the past if I can avoid it.
 
yeah, should have worded it like that lol but yeah that was all Clemson - VT had nothing to do with that loss.

It did give the perception that Va Tech (and the ACC overall) was overrated though seeing that Clemson had already beaten them twice convincingly and then got man handled in the Bowl game.
 
Hey, this may very well be their year. The schedules are favorable for a couple of them for sure.
I doubt it will happen, but who knows. Maybe this year the SEC can beat a ACC team in the BCS champ game. Stranger things...
 
It did give the perception that Va Tech (and the ACC overall) was overrated though seeing that Clemson had already beaten them twice convincingly and then got man handled in the Bowl game.
yeah that's bs too.. Clemson always does that, they have always been like that wasn't nothing against the other teams they beat. But that was last year, this is this year this year looks to be an awesome year for a few ACC teams to be contenders. Watch that video? I did... all fired up!
 
Loo, I think Clemson was a much better team that that one game indicated, but I also think that the ACC is overall, one of the weaker (again overall) conferences of the big boys.

No, I havent watched the video, but I am right there with you on being fired up. Been ready for some college football for quite some time now! Hopefully I can make a game in Tuscaloosa this year, but the wife and I really want to take our daughter (and she REALLY wants to go as well, quite the little fan). Both of us however think that she probably needs another year before she is ready to sit still (well not still, but in one spot) for that long, or be comfortable in such a large crowd of rowdy people.
 
Why is it that if a team or conference is criticized, someone is categorized as a hater? Sorry, but often that criticism is coming from someone that has no dog in the fight, just going on facts. It is just a fact, based on performance that the ACC has been down for a while. Someone referred to the MWC as the "crappiest conference in the country". At the end of 2010, in the rankings that ESPN does (or uses), the MWC was rated above both the ACC and the Big East. The puzzling thing about the ACC is that it is filled with storied names that have won national championships so it's hard to figure why they haven't been more competitive nationally.

A lot of these polls and rankings are somewhat arbitrary, though, and a big problem with comparisons is the lack of competition between conferences. If you look at the out of conference games, the top SEC teams have historically played a lot of FCS teams with the reasoning (excuse?) that the conference was so tough that they needed some easy games. Valid? Maybe, but not that convincing. Any conference game is tough because you are playing teams that know you well and aren't afraid of you. Then, look at the bowl games. Generally the ACC is matched against the Big East, the SEC against the Big Ten, and The Big 12 against the Pac-12 which again limits competition among some conferences and makes comparisons difficult. That's why a playoff with 8 teams would be more representative as you could get a team from each of the majors (Big East being very questionable) and 2 at large from independents and other conferences. I don't think there should ever be 2 teams from any conference to make winning the conference title more valuable and I've always believed if you can't win your conference, you should be eliminated from title consideration. (No basketball arguments please, because you can't play a football game every day - and the basketball setup is because of the money, not for any aesthetic reason ).
 
Man... still disputing conference...LOL!:coffee I can see it during bowl season...you know, your team is either out or outranked by a school in your conference..OK, I'll buy arguing one conference over another for the bowls...I don't get it, but hey...to each his own. But BEFORE the season starts, the argument should be MORE about 'my team is better than your team'...not this conference stuff.:deadhorse::wacko::bored::wink:
 
Man... still disputing conference...LOL!:coffee I can see it during bowl season...you know, your team is either out or outranked by a school in your conference..OK, I'll buy arguing one conference over another for the bowls...I don't get it, but hey...to each his own. But BEFORE the season starts, the argument should be MORE about 'my team is better than your team'...not this conference stuff.:deadhorse::wacko::bored::wink:


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