Al Jazeera and Blaze

[Chris Walker]

It's still shocking to me that a channel called Al Jazeera AMERICA now exists considering what the regular Al Jazeera on the middle east carries, but I respect Dish for carrying both sides of the propaganda (Blaze, AJA) and not taking sides. I'm not offended really, more surprised. I'll just choose to block both from my guide.

 

[HD Lover]

As said before, you can easily block any channel carried by Dish and please do so! I block all the shopping channels, Blaze, Fox business, Fox News and various others that I would never watch.
However, though I may not want to watch those channels, I realize that other do and they should be able to. Alot of channels that people complain about pay to get on the line-up, so of course Dish is going to carry them whether anyone is watching or not.

 

[TheKrell]

what I find ironic is when Dee originally wanted Dish it was due to History channel being scrambled on FTA and didnt want to spend alot of money (yet she has almost the top package)

That is indeed ironic, though I must point out that she didn't specifically complain about the History channel (yet). That was ME.

 

[Yespage]

Latino Dos only has CNN, I believe.

It's still shocking to me that a channel called Al Jazeera AMERICA now exists considering what the regular Al Jazeera on the middle east carries, but I respect Dish for carrying both sides of the propaganda (Blaze, AJA) and not taking sides.

Umm.... that's a Moore-Coulter... (i.e. political false equivalence). AJA is a news station. Blaze is... well... not a news station.

 

[Teehar]

Fully agree with that post #5 Dee_Ann. I went from watching a whole lot of NatGeo and Science Channel to none. What is with programmers and idiotic reality shows? If it actually makes more money (by drawing more viewers) for a channel than education, I guess we should be appalled at our fellow Americans' mental condition.

At least NOVA and Nature are still on PBS...

It's a case of monkey see monkey do.I'm not sure who started it all,perhaps it was MTV,or TLC,but once it began all the others rushed to find the next biggest thing in reality.In a lot of cases exploiting people,to be fair though the folks that signed on for these shows opened themselves up to it.

Here is a classic example of the copy cat syndrome.
History had a show called moonshiners,there was a guy on there called Tickle,I reckon Tickle was such a cult hero on Moonshiners it warranted Discovery giving him his own show called....Tickle.:rant: Discovery has also went so far as to make a mockumentary shark week show,about a Megalodon attacking a fishing crew off the coast of South Africa.There were a lot of people that thought it was real.

What makes it worse imo,is scripted shows about real History,such as The Hatfield's and McCoy's get huge ratings,yet they come back with more of the stupidity.I don't know if these tv producers sit back and say to themselves,let's show just how dumb the tv viewers are,or it's all about the money,or both.Either way,it's a disturbing trend.

 

[3HaloODST]

I'm no sure whether it's the viewers that are just getting dumber, or the media is trying to dumb us down (as dumb people are easier to entertain/manipulate.) I guess it's a little bit of both.

 

[StevenD]

Is there ANYTHING you dont complain about? SMH!

 

[navychop]

Some people better open their minds because you are not the consumer you are actually the product, that's right, despite what you think, your understanding about the world is wrong, you are in fact the commodity for sale. The provider makes money for distribution from both sides. Some channels pay a provider for carriage in exchange for ad time during the commercial breaks either inserted on that provider or distributed nationally on all providers. You are none the wiser either. If a channel is in a certain package that is because they want access to you for their advertisers.

So you may not like the content of one channel, but that does not matter because that ad will still find you on another station so watch out.

Well said.

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[3HaloODST]

Is there ANYTHING you dont complain about? SMH!

Who?

 

[StevenD]

Who?

OP

 

[GaryPen]

Some people better open their minds because you are not the consumer you are actually the product, that's right, despite what you think, your understanding about the world is wrong, you are in fact the commodity for sale. The provider makes money for distribution from both sides. Some channels pay a provider for carriage in exchange for ad time during the commercial breaks either inserted on that provider or distributed nationally on all providers. You are none the wiser either. If a channel is in a certain package that is because they want access to you for their advertisers.

So you may not like the content of one channel, but that does not matter because that ad will still find you on another station so watch out.

None of that makes us "the product". We are still the consumers of what they are selling.

 

[Juan]

Latino Dos only has CNN, I believe.
Umm.... that's a Moore-Coulter... (i.e. political false equivalence). AJA is a news station. Blaze is... well... not a news station.

I guess news is a personal perspective..some even call BBC propaganda..Blaze is a news entertainment station..they discuss issues not much differently than CNN or MSNBC..in other words they have hosts with biased opinions

 

[Scherrman]

I pretty much hate all the regular news channels. So much negative crap going on in the world and complaining. It's depressing to watch. Only news I care about is for sports or other hobbies.

 

[r10fret]

None of that makes us "the product". We are still the consumers of what they are selling.

Okay, whatever makes you feel better. I didn't even mention metadata.

 

[GaryPen]

Okay, whatever makes you feel better. I didn't even mention metadata.

It has nothing to do with what makes me feel better. But, in the context of TV programming, we are simply not product. Metadata doesn't enter into it. The Internet is another story, of course.

But, whatever makes you feel worse, which is apparently what makes you feel better.

 

[TheKrell]

I don't know if these tv producers sit back and say to themselves, let's show just how dumb the tv viewers are, or it's all about the money, or both. Either way, it's a disturbing trend.

Then there is Idiot Abroad.

 

[r10fret]

But, in the context of TV programming, we are simply not product.


Metadata doesn't enter into it.

In the case of ESPN you are the product that is being sold, the distributor is paying ESPN on your behalf and ESPN is then selling you to the advertiser,
you are the product being sold. The advertiser is the consumer.

In the case of HSN or TBN you are the product being sold by the distributor. The network is the consumer.

In the case of RT you are being sold. Russia is the consumer.

Even HBO is selling you through product placement in the films they show. Corporate placement is the consumer.

In the case of WABC or any local affiliate getting compensation reimbursement you are being sold. The network and local advertisers are the consumers.

The metadata is what backs all this up.

The distributor is a middle man who makes money handling your sale.

You are being sold. Scared yet?

 

[acostapimps]

I don't watch the Blaze but I do find Glenn Beck to be funny, even if I don't agree with him at all.

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[Yespage]

I guess news is a personal perspective..some even call BBC propaganda.

Not the "some" fallacy.

Blaze is a news entertainment station.

Blaze is to legitimate news as WWE is to legitimate sport. I wish people would get that Beck is no different than Andy Kaufmann.

they discuss issues not much differently than CNN or MSNBC..in other words they have hosts with biased opinions

I didn't bring up CNN or MSNBC, both of which are tabloid news stations.

 

[dare2be]

You are being sold. Scared yet?

I'm fine with that. Let them overpay for an unresponsive product.