I am comparing two things : PREMIUM MOVIE packs that are available ala cart and PREMIUM Sports packs that should also be available ala cart. IF you take those two packs out of the mix all you have left is the cable niche channels that are available in the basic programming packs. With the sports packs out ,you should see substantial savings ,since those niche channels are what support the price of the sports channels now anyway. But of course ala cart will never happen in the current satellite/cable model. We will continue to see cord cutting accelerate till the current model collapses. Then it will all be ala cart.Then the same should apply to all those little niche channels. I don't watch them, yet I am forced to pay for them. What's good for the goose...
Do you see where this is going?
Which is why the poster's title is made up. Having a personal gripe with DISH is no reason to mislead, maybe that's why he has a problem with DISH?I doubt Dish will drop all RSN's this round,...
Why should I have to pay for BIG 10, PAC 12 and SEC networks?
None of those member schools are in this market.
Which is why the poster's title is made up. Having a personal gripe with DISH is no reason to mislead, maybe that's why he has a problem with DISH?
Your points are right on however. If DISH were to drop NESN I would get the MLB package online and keep DISH. If I miss a few games of other sports assuming the cost is substantially less with DISH than other providers, I won't mind. I can always go to a friend's house or a bar for the few big games I might want to see. It appears ESPN is safe for awhile good that DISH has that deal done.
There are too many RSNs as it is. Like why the heck does Ohio have 3 RSNs?
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Ok.. Clarifications always work.I am comparing two things : PREMIUM MOVIE packs that are available ala cart and PREMIUM Sports packs that should also be available ala cart. IF you take those two packs out of the mix all you have left is the cable niche channels that are available in the basic programming packs. With the sports packs out ,you should see substantial savings ,since those niche channels are what support the price of the sports channels now anyway. But of course ala cart will never happen in the current satellite/cable model. We will continue to see cord cutting accelerate till the current model collapses. Then it will all be ala cart.
Here's the problem with dropping ALL RSN's. There are enough sports fans, I think Charlie is full of mierda BTW, that doing this would have and adverse effect on subs. If Dish dropped all RSN's, I'd be gone.Right. Only a few Comcast RSN's might be dropped regarding negotiations, not all RSN's.
1. Comcast is a competitor. Of course, Comcast will make an unpalatable proposal for rights for its RSN's on Dish. This is the fault of our government for allowing content owners/programmers to also own MVPD's (cable, FiOS, IPTV, and sat companies).
However, on the larger issue of ALL the RSN's:
2. Ergen has said for many years that the RSN's make the least economic sense with low returns. He even said they were ready to do away with all RSN's just after the old Fox RSN's and Dish finalized a deal to stay on Dish. Of course, talk is one thing and Ergen is the King of dropping hints that may not necessarily reflect Dish's real strategy.
3. Ergen had stated at the last Quarterly Conference Call that ". . . somebody is going to go ahead without RSN's [at some point in the future]. . ." He has always hinted that Dish is always considering dropping even ALL RSN's and explaining why.
4. According the Ergen, he knows what channels we watch, and the numbers on Dish for RSN's is quite small compared to the far more watched ESPN or other channels that carry bigger games such as TNT or the local channels. Ergen feels with the low number of viewers on the RSN's coupled with how expensive they are to acquire, he feels Dish could do well without RSN's--IF IT HAS TO. I don't think Dish wants to drop RSN's, but it will IF THE ECONOMIES MAKE SENSE. Let's face it, RSN's are for die-hard fans, not the masses who watch only the big match-ups, which are never on the RSN's, but are on ESPN's or TNT, or TBS, or the broadcast nets. So, according to Dish statistics as per Egren, the vast majority of Dish subscribers won't miss the RSN's, but will still expect to be able to watch the big, important games on Dish the are televised on the larger channels that are not RSN's.
5. Consider to many other ways people can access sports on-line, etc. as alternatives.
I for one wold love the RSN's to fade away. There is always DirecTV, the sports LEADER to subscribe to---OH, wait a minute. DirecTV does NOT have Pac12 nor the Dodgers channel. Hmm. It seems even Mike White has his limits, too. Well, let DircTV continue to be the sports and higher subscription rates leader and let Dish return to its roots of being the lowest cost provider with great tech that surpassed DirecTV back in 2002. Dish could position itself as the provider for those looking not to subsidize sports channels they never watch.
I doubt Dish will drop all RSN's this round, but it may actually do so in a few years. That would be interesting, and I would be staying on Dish and let others blow their money as they see fit on RSN's.
That's the way SportsChannel NY and MSG used to be. If there was not a pro event on( very rare) the programming was geared to the local teams.I miss the days when there was a local sports network, not nationally affiliated. Much more local sports programming instead of the 80% of national shows like Poker and Dan Patrick.
In my area it was called KBL.
technically they have only 2. Fox Sports Ohio and Sportstime OhioThere are too many RSNs as it is. Like why the heck does Ohio have 3 RSNs?
Still too many! Reds, Indians, Cavs, Crew, etc any crossover can be placed on an overflow feed.technically they have only 2. Fox Sports Ohio and Sportstime Ohio
Sportstime Ohio was created for the Indians (ala the YES Network, Dodgers channel and any other 1 team network)
FS Cincy is actually just a subfeed of FS Ohio. (like Root Utah, FS Indiana, FS Carolinas, FS Tennessee)