I notice in the dbstalk website you can't talk about "moving" but you can here.

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My biggest gripe is that cable in my location can give you both Baltimore and Washington locals, but DTV says they can't. The FCC says they can under frequently shared channels ,but they refuse. That is why I left for several months until I saw how bad Comcast was and came back again.
 

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According to the Directv lookup for sv channels, the only one you are eligible for is MPT. Put your zip code in the box.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packProg/svLocalChannels.jsp?assetId=1200076&_requestid=7308529
If you check with the FCC Significantly Viewed List, you get a different answer. See page 183 for Frederick County, MD.
Frederick
WRC-TV, 4, Washington, DC
WTTG, 5, Washington, DC
WJLA-TV, 7, Washington, DC (formerly WMAL)
WUSA, 9, Washington, DC (formerly WTOP)
+WDCA, 20, Washington, DC
WMAR-TV, 2, Baltimore, MD
WBAL-TV, 11, Baltimore, MD
WJZ-TV, 13, Baltimore, MD

This is my list. I currently do not receive any of the PA stations through Dish. (But I do OTA, except for Channel 6. People living in Philly have a hard time getting 6 since it is actually broadcasting on VHF 6.)
Cecil
WMAR-TV, 2, Baltimore, MD
WBAL-TV, 11, Baltimore, MD
WJZ-TV, 13, Baltimore, MD
+WNUV, 54, Baltimore, MD
KYW-TV, 3, Philadelphia, PA
WPVI-TV, 6, Philadelphia, PA (formerly WFIL)
WCAU, 10, Philadelphia, PA
WGAL, 8, Lancaster, PA
 

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There is a large discrepancy between the FCC list and the Directv list. According to the FCC, I should be getting 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, and 11 from NYC, but I get 2, 4, and 5, which is what the Directv list says.
 

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There is a large discrepancy between the FCC list and the Directv list. According to the FCC, I should be getting 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, and 11 from NYC, but I get 2, 4, and 5, which is what the Directv list says.

And yet WFFF Burlington VT didn't exist when the SV list was made, yet the channel is available to the southern 2 counties in VT, which are in the Albany and Boston DMAs. I have also noticed that a lot of CT zip codes get WBZ Boston on SV (Chip is probably too far south and west) yet none in RI get that, where the channel is possible OTA. None of any of this makes sense. My solution: Keep current DMAs. Add logical SV channels (like a state's PBS). ADD ALL ZIP CODES/COUNTIES WITHIN A CERTAIN OTA COVERAGE CONTOUR of a station, regardless of DMA. That solves Providence not getting Boston, SE MA not getting Providence, Balt/Wash mess, and many other situations where the current STUPID system for locals fails to provide a logical line-up. Also, while I am ranting and being greedy, let's see the superstations in HD....

I'm done. For now.
 

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And yet WFFF Burlington VT didn't exist when the SV list was made, yet the channel is available to the southern 2 counties in VT, which are in the Albany and Boston DMAs..
that actually was part of a senate/congress law in Vermont to all VT locals in the state regardless of DMA
Just like WMUR (ABC) in New Hampshire
 

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I do seem to remember something to that effect. Wasn't Bernie Sanders part of that? If so, if he becomes president, maybe we can get rid of DMAs!

that actually was part of a senate/congress law in Vermont to all VT locals in the state regardless of DMA
Just like WMUR (ABC) in New Hampshire
 

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I don't know. I just remember it happened during the whole "Dish lost the right to carry any out of DMA station" time
 

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As I have posted before, DMAs are ctitical to the delivery of local channels. If locals were not DMA-limited the sat providers would not be able to use spotbeams and so virtually none of us would get locals at all.
 

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As I have posted before, DMAs are ctitical to the delivery of local channels. If locals were not DMA-limited the sat providers would not be able to use spotbeams and so virtually none of us would get locals at all.

DMAs have ruined local TV. Their arbitrary borders are meaningless. It should be based on OTA coverage and missing networks need to be brought in from other markets. Like I said before, keep the current DMAs so rural people can still get locals but add OTA coverage range too.
 

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The local affiliates would fight any big changes all the way, and as I said they have exclusive contracts with the networks so unless the networks themselves change the contracts it is not going to happen.
And this is apart from the spotbeam technical issues.
 

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I agree with ejb...local DMA should be limited to what one can receive with rabbit ears..
30-40 miles max. If locals want a larger market let them spend the $$$ to erect relay towers that guarantee a steady signal. No...they don't want to have to spend any $$$ just rake it in.
 
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