That was an inside joke intended for TheKrell, who owns a 612 and insists (like me with my 722) that he won't upgrade to the Hopper.
That was my point. None of the Dish DVRs were rock solid from inception, but the ViP line is long enough in the tooth now that they are solid now, and what I will stick with.To be fair, give Dish and others 3 yeas or so to work out all the bugs on released STB's and they do become closer to "rock solid".
Like that ever happens.
I would say most likely. And the larger the HDD the more heat generated. I think the last robust fan Echo used an DVR's was back on the 50X and 510. They were like TiVo fans--not including the base Romio which has horrible air flow and DYIers replace that stock fan) good are keeping things cool BUT . . . Dish got a lot of complaints about the fans making noise in people's bedrooms (this was before the not fan clients now deployed) and so Echo tweaked the fans to NOT operate until reaching higher temps. This was also done for the 721. This created for a quiet experience, but allowed heat to do its damage. The fans in Dish boxes today is pathetic and when they do run, they are LOUD, even at the lower speed, and even after the known probalem of boxes no allowing enough space underneath to allow heat escape and airflow, Echo/Dish continued to make STB's with NO ROOM at the bottom to solve the heat problem. I have to put a laptop fan on one HopperWS in an enclosure, otherwise, the fan BLOW highrate LOUD and the STB starts behaving all funky. Could all these DVR makers please design well for the matter of HEAT generated by the STB, PLEASE.
So all other cable cos. do offer VOD on Retail? And Comcast VOD supported on TiVo's that are not Xfinity? Thanks for the clarification, unless you are referring to the very few instances like the OLD comcast or RCN or RNC or whatever insignificant cable co there is. That's right, ther are no Tuning Adapter problems for any TiVo users. They are "rock solid" as another poster likes that term. OK, now share with us the problems you do experinece with TiVo's TODAY, post Rovi metadata and broken MRV, unless you foolinshly upgraded your S3's for all S4's and above. That must have cost you another FORTUNE in saved fees compared to costs of cable and sat. I'm glad there are enough rich people, like me, to continually upgrade their TiVo's every new generation. TiVo really is the Apple of DVR's: they keep having people put up THOUSANDS of $$ in costs to upgrade and even addtional hundreds to buy the support devices like the Minis, and Streams and MoCA adapters and trow some cash to the cable cos. for use of Cable Cards. This is easily the superior model, especially when TiVo DVR's today, can NOT reliabley record what we set them to record nor can we watch the WRONG show recorded in the other room using our S3 TiVo's that were bought and paid for many years ago---no need to upgrade for mega-bucks just to view in the other room--oh wait, Rovi BROKE that, didn't they? But wait, all is well in TiVoland according to Rovi and many apologists at TCF and a few here. Next time, you don't need to get snippy, just point out stuff you wish to make a correction. Now get back to your rock solid TiVo post Rovi experience watching show not reocorded, Skip commerical not functioning and watching non-existant or out of DMA channels in your line-up of Channels You Receive as they BREAK your OnePasses. The rest of us here have quibbles compared to your TiVo experience.
How does a new customer signing up end up with a VIP receiver anyway ?
Yes, heat was and still is the ViP only drawback. I use a small usb fan drawing air out the side of my 722 and it's coming up on 5.5 years with the same unit.
I learned this trick from no other place than here, SatGuys.
You mean, like, hmmm...pushing the CUI on H1 and H2 receivers?
And??
90% of new customers just want a box that gives them channels on their TV. They don't know, nor care, about VIP, 722, Hopper, Joey, etc.
