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No, it's per Joey. If you install 3 WiFi Joeys, it's $75.00, but only uses 1 WAP

I stand corrected. It looks like the change from $25 for the WAP to $25 per Wireless Joey took place early last year. I haven't set up an account with more than 1 W/J since then and didn't notice.
 

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I stand corrected. It looks like the change from $25 for the WAP to $25 per Wireless Joey took place early last year. I haven't set up an account with more than 1 W/J since then and didn't notice.

Then our customers have been getting an especially good deal. :biggrin

Like you we don't do many with more than 1 wireless Joey so it hasn't hurt much. In fact, it's an incentive for the customer. :)
 
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CEV

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Scheduled my install with the local retailer for Friday morning. Hopper 3 and 2 wireless Joey's. $25 for each wireless Joey.

He was showing me some of the features of the Hopper and they seem pretty amazing compared to the DirecTV Genie I have now. It seemed amazingly fast as well. But I forgot to ask him a question that perhaps you guys can answer. He was showing me the features directly on the Hopper 3, and as I said, it seemed amazingly fast. Will my 2 wireless Joey's be that fast as well?
 

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Scheduled my install with the local retailer for Friday morning. Hopper 3 and 2 wireless Joey's. $25 for each wireless Joey.

He was showing me some of the features of the Hopper and they seem pretty amazing compared to the DirecTV Genie I have now. It seemed amazingly fast as well. But I forgot to ask him a question that perhaps you guys can answer. He was showing me the features directly on the Hopper 3, and as I said, it seemed amazingly fast. Will my 2 wireless Joey's be that fast as well?

I didn't end up with the wireless Joey, but my regular Joey 2.0, which is thought to be slower than the wireless models, is not as fast as the Hopper3, but definitely much faster than the Genie C61k client as well as the HR54 Genie.
 

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He was showing me the features directly on the Hopper 3, and as I said, it seemed amazingly fast. Will my 2 wireless Joey's be that fast as well?
The WJs have a touch of lag, but nearly as slow as the original Joeys (1). But be warned, if you would end up using a IR remote, like a Harmony, they will be very slow.
 

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I stand corrected. It looks like the change from $25 for the WAP to $25 per Wireless Joey took place early last year. I haven't set up an account with more than 1 W/J since then and didn't notice.

I don't often do more than one and most of the ones that I install our for customers who are supposed to get Joey 2.0, but cabling is difficult or they would rather not have cable wrapped around the house or exterior walls that can't be wall finished, whatever the circumstances I end up modifying them to a wireless Joey
 
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CEV, like you I switched from DTV to Dish over 2 years ago. It looks like you're already scheduled for the install, but I wanted to share my experience with you. I switched to Dish because I was having recording issues with the first gen Genie. Other folks were having the same issue, but DTV would not acknowledge there was even a problem. So they lost me as a customer.

Like most everyone else says the Dish equipment (DVR) is superior to anything else I've had. I have the Hopper 2, or Hopper with Sling, and it's worked just about flawlessly. I record a lot of programming! With Dish you can connect an external drive for expanded storage, but the great thing is you can connect it to any DVR on your account and watch the content. So if you upgrade or if your DVR fails you keep the content on the external drive. Also, you can transfer recordings from one DVR to another. So, if you want to upgrade you don't lose all your recordings. No other service that I know of, even TIVO, has those capabilities.

The one issue I have with Dish is their picture quality. This is VERY subjective, but to me, DTV (and Comcast I had previously) has better PQ than Dish. Many people say they can't notice any difference. But if you search the forums there's enough chatter to know it's not just a few crazy outliers. On the first page of this forum there's a recent post about Dish's PQ. I'm an AV nerd, so PQ is very important to me. I pay very close attention to it. The day it was installed I immediately noticed a difference. The PQ has improved since I first got Dish though. The biggest improvement was when I upgraded my H2 to the new carbon GUI. Right from the release of H3's people remarked the PQ was better. So you'll be at a better starting point than I was. And you may not notice a difference, which would be great. I'm not telling you this to deter you from Dish. I'm out of contract and I still have Dish. The equipment reliability and performance mostly out weighs slight decrease in PQ. It was just a surprise (and somewhat a disappointment) when I first got Dish. Wanted to 'warn' you ahead of time.
 
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CEV, like you I switched from DTV to Dish over 2 years ago. It looks like you're already scheduled for the install, but I wanted to share my experience with you. I switched to Dish because I was having recording issues with the first gen Genie. Other folks were having the same issue, but DTV would not acknowledge there was even a problem. So they lost me as a customer.

Like most everyone else says the Dish equipment (DVR) is superior to anything else I've had. I have the Hopper 2, or Hopper with Sling, and it's worked just about flawlessly. I record a lot of programming! With Dish you can connect an external drive for expanded storage, but the great thing is you can connect it to any DVR on your account and watch the content. So if you upgrade or if your DVR fails you keep the content on the external drive. Also, you can transfer recordings from one DVR to another. So, if you want to upgrade you don't lose all your recordings. No other service that I know of, even TIVO, has those capabilities.

The one issue I have with Dish is their picture quality. This is VERY subjective, but to me, DTV (and Comcast I had previously) has better PQ than Dish. Many people say they can't notice any difference. But if you search the forums there's enough chatter to know it's not just a few crazy outliers. On the first page of this forum there's a recent post about Dish's PQ. I'm an AV nerd, so PQ is very important to me. I pay very close attention to it. The day it was installed I immediately noticed a difference. The PQ has improved since I first got Dish though. The biggest improvement was when I upgraded my H2 to the new carbon GUI. Right from the release of H3's people remarked the PQ was better. So you'll be at a better starting point than I was. And you may not notice a difference, which would be great. I'm not telling you this to deter you from Dish. I'm out of contract and I still have Dish. The equipment reliability and performance mostly out weighs slight decrease in PQ. It was just a surprise (and somewhat a disappointment) when I first got Dish. Wanted to 'warn' you ahead of time.
Nice first post buzz kill!
 

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I just switched from DTV back to Dish. Primary TV is a 60", and I see little difference between the PQ on Dish and what I had on DTV, except for the those few channels I have watched a couple of episodes of MASH, or similar programming on. Not to say that at times there hasn't been some difference, but most of the time I suspect these are the same "experts" who claim they hear, or see, a difference using $100 Monster Cables instead of generic cheapie cables. In particular, every independent, well run test I have seen says there is no difference between in HDMI cables, they either work or they don't work. There is no "better signal" somewhere in between. But they keep selling those cables to people who are convinced they see or hear something better.
 
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ncted

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I will say that crappy channels (WUNC for instance) look crappy on both services, so I would not expect Dish or DirecTV to improve anything in those cases.
 

Matty_G

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Nice first post buzz kill!

Haha, you're right! I just wanted him to know that when I switched to Dish 2+ years ago I noticed a decrease in PQ right away. It has since improved. As I said, PQ is very subjective. That was my experience. Guess I could have said that in a lot fewer words.
 

Matty_G

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I'd guess he hasn't seen the DirecTV picture lately. The Hopper 3 picture here is now the same or better on most channels than it is on the DirecTV HR54 Genie here.

No, I have not seen DTV in a controlled environment in 2+ years. Only in restaurants and sports bars.
 

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No, I have not seen DTV in a controlled environment in 2+ years. Only in restaurants and sports bars.

IMHO since AT&T took over they have really gone down hill. I have a Genie and a Hopper 3 connected to the same TV for comparison purposes. The SD on Dish is far superior and the HD is about the same with some channels slightly better on Dish, some slightly better on DirecTV. All IMHO of course. :)
 

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I just switched from DTV back to Dish. Primary TV is a 60", and I see little difference between the PQ on Dish and what I had on DTV, except for the those few channels I have watched a couple of episodes of MASH, or similar programming on. Not to say that at times there hasn't been some difference, but most of the time I suspect these are the same "experts" who claim they hear, or see, a difference using $100 Monster Cables instead of generic cheapie cables. In particular, every independent, well run test I have seen says there is no difference between in HDMI cables, they either work or they don't work. There is no "better signal" somewhere in between. But they keep selling those cables to people who are convinced they see or hear something better.

When using shorter lengths of cable there isn’t a visible difference, but when going 30ft or more it’s all about quality of the cable. With that said, more expensive doesn’t necessarily mean better quality. In that case it’s always good to do your research first and read all reviews good and bad.
 
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When using shorter lengths of cable there isn’t a visible difference, but when going 30ft or more it’s all about quality of the cable. With that said, more expensive doesn’t necessarily mean better quality. In that case it’s always good to do your research first and read all reviews good and bad.

A bit off topic but any digital cable either works or it doesn’t. The 1s and 0s either make it to the other end or it doesn’t. There isn’t a quality of picture difference like you get with analog cables. I know HDMI has a spec that dictates how long they should work for (which I don’t know off hand).. and maybe a higher quality cord may work for longer distances, but the picture won’t care regardless whether they are hundred dollar monster cable or 4 dollar monoprice cable. For longer distances you may be better of using something like a hdmi to ethernet balun.
 

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I'm at the end of my DTV contract. I tried to stay by getting a Genie 2 and 5 4K wired mini Genies. The installer showed up with 5 wireless mini Genies and let me know that I had to have 5 4K TVs to get 5 4K mini Genies. I only have one 4K TV but plan on getting more within my 2-year commitment. I canceled the install. With DISH what Joey is the best if you plan on having 4K TVs?
 

dolfan3033

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I'm at the end of my DTV contract. I tried to stay by getting a Genie 2 and 5 4K wired mini Genies. The installer showed up with 5 wireless mini Genies and let me know that I had to have 5 4K TVs to get 5 4K mini Genies. I only have one 4K TV but plan on getting more within my 2-year commitment. I canceled the install. With DISH what Joey is the best if you plan on having 4K TVs?

4K Joey. I have 2 of them and don’t even have a 4K TV. I fibbed to the person that processed my order. I got them purely for the speed.. and now they have Netflix! They aren’t wireless tho.. they are hooked up with coaxial. There is a wireless Joey but to my knowledge aren’t 4K.
 
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