" the wheels are falling off of satellite TV"

The emerging iptv platform will allow customers to purchase broadband from one provider and only the programming they want directly from the programmer..problem is that most millenials want free

The millenials I l know pay for their Netflix, Hulu+ etc and I haven’t heard any complaints from them about that (and trust me they are a whiny generation). I haven’t heard any of them asking for free TV. They do however watch TV differently.
 
Did you read the rest of my post? Dish is the only provider that would suffer from a declining subscriber base, as the other companies have other services to absorb/mitigate the losses. They can offer artificially low TV prices and make up for it with profits from telephone and internet bundles.
Yes, I read your entire post, but my assertion is that despite these other companies with diverse services won't for long accept an operating division that drains profits from the rest of the company. They will most likely do what others have done, which is to divest themselves of the underperforming component or shut it down.
If you ran a company with for example, five divisions with four profitable and one continually losing money, what would you do?
 
Well finally, some capacity and cost numbers.

500Mbps for rural users? What does that translate to for urban users?

$30B. Let's say they get 10M customers and run that cost over 10 years. I'd call that doable, economically speaking.

Let's see how many customers they get and what speeds they deliver. And what they'll charge.


Gee. Might I someday carry my own sat antenna onboard a cruise ship and set it up on my balcony? Have the same Internet service as I have at home?
 
Well finally, some capacity and cost numbers.

500Mbps for rural users? What does that translate to for urban users?

$30B. Let's say they get 10M customers and run that cost over 10 years. I'd call that doable, economically speaking.

Let's see how many customers they get and what speeds they deliver. And what they'll charge.


Gee. Might I someday carry my own sat antenna onboard a cruise ship and set it up on my balcony? Have the same Internet service as I have at home?
I think they have a much bigger customer expectation . Their testimony talked about a 1 billion customer capacity. Right now there are about 3.9 billion internet users worldwide. 388 million in North america. See World Internet Users Statistics and 2017 World Population Stats .
 
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An understanding of free market forces.

Net "Neutrality" is the biggest oxymoron ever coined. Giving the government monopoly power over the Internet is insane.
So you think I can trust any corporation?......Can I have some of that your smoking?.....I will take my chances with checks and balances over any CEO!
 
There is another option for Satellite delivered TV. 40% of the German televisions( most in rural areas) receive 240 channels free to air via satellite supported by their government. The same is true in other areas of the world where it is cost prohibited to wire the countries for internet , phone , or television. So when Dish and Directv fail, maybe the government could pick them up at going out of business prices.
 
So you think I can trust any corporation?......Can I have some of that your smoking?.....I will take my chances with checks and balances over any CEO!
No corporation can put a gun to your head and make you buy, but the government can.
With them in charge, the most glad-handing lobbyists will determine what you see.
 
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If ATT Is doing so well with DirectTVand bundling Internet, then why did they lose so many thousands of customer this last quarter. The same as Dish

I pay twice as much for Internet thru Cox as I pay for tv thru Dish.
 
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No corporation can put a gun to your head and make you buy, but the government can.
With them in charge, the most glad-handing lobbyists will determine what you see.



That is carved in stone.

And surely most people are aware there is not free speech in Germany, at least not to the extent we have here. And don't think we have free speech here- just say "Confederate heroes" in public and see what happens.
 
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There is another option for Satellite delivered TV. 40% of the German televisions( most in rural areas) receive 240 channels free to air via satellite supported by their government. The same is true in other areas of the world where it is cost prohibited to wire the countries for internet , phone , or television. So when Dish and Directv fail, maybe the government could pick them up at going out of business prices.

The last thing I want is socialized government TV
 
The last thing I want is socialized government TV
So because PBS changed the name of Masterpiece Mystery to "[Name of character] On Mystery" I didn't catch that my Hopper wasn't recording "Endeavour" until the new season was over. (My two PBS channels run their shows whenever they feel like it. And they seem to never want to run them with the national PBS schedule).

But...OK...I didn't panic. These days you can ALWAYS find anything via "On Demand". So I download the PBS app on my Fire TV 4K Box, fill in all the normal things, verify I have an account with Dish etc. and I open the app. I can watch episode 4 for free, but the other 3 new episodes are locked out unless I become a premium "Passport" member! Eight bucks a month!

You mean to tell me that all those evil corporations give me free access to all they have when I prove I'm a customer, but a TAX SUPPORTED channel that I subscribe to, as well as pay taxes into, locks me out and wants to extort more?!!!

Take their license and sell their spectrum! The "need" for a tax supported channel died in the 80's when cable expanded to open up all the channels available today.

Just remember things like this when you decide you want the government to "regulate" things. Especially the Internet!
 
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So because PBS changed the name of Masterpiece Mystery to "[Name of character] On Mystery" I didn't catch that my Hopper wasn't recording "Endeavour" until the new season was over. (My two PBS channels run their shows whenever they feel like it. And they seem to never want to run them with the national PBS schedule).

But...OK...I didn't panic. These days you can ALWAYS find anything via "On Demand". So I download the PBS app on my Fire TV 4K Box, fill in all the normal things, verify I have an account with Dish etc. and I open the app. I can watch episode 4 for free, but the other 3 new episodes are locked out unless I become a premium "Passport" member! Eight bucks a month!

You mean to tell me that all those evil corporations give me free access to all they have when I prove I'm a customer, but a TAX SUPPORTED channel that I subscribe to, as well as pay taxes into, locks me out and wants to extort more?!!!

Take their license and sell their spectrum! The "need" for a tax supported channel died in the 80's when cable expanded to open up all the channels available today.

Just remember things like this when you decide you want the government to "regulate" things. Especially the Internet!

Without digressing too much, PBS is only 12% funded by the Feds. It is mostly supported by corporate and user donations. Of that 12%, most of it is used to cover the OTA transmitter expenses of rural PBS stations. It has been said that PBS could and would survive even if Congress defunded the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (except for small market and rural OTA stations). I'd be OK with PBS being fully user and corporate funded. What I'm against is the Government owning a whole swath of TV channels that is controls 100%. That's an Orwellian socialist nightmare.
 
If ATT Is doing so well with DirectTVand bundling Internet, then why did they lose so many thousands of customer this last quarter. The same as Dish

I pay twice as much for Internet thru Cox as I pay for tv thru Dish.

AT&T is not doing well. They never should have bought DirecTV. Instead, they should have turned U-verse into a OTT product like DirecTV Now, and invested the other $48 billion on expanding their fiber footprint. Some of AT&T's customers might be doing well, by bundling wireless, TV, and Internet, but the company is not killing it. All of that said, I am an AT&T wireless and Fiber Internet customer, and I am very happy, but I get the impression what I place value on differs significantly from many other customers. Hence the stream of people switching to OTT TV and T-Mobile wireless.
 
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