DISH Network Files Reply in Support of Petitions for FCC to Deny Comcast-Time Warner Cable Merger

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DISH Network Files Reply in Support of Petitions for FCC to Deny Comcast-Time Warner Cable Merger

ENGLEWOOD, Colo.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Citing irreparable harm to competition and consumers, and no discernible benefits, from the proposed union of the first and second largest cable companies in the nation, DISH Network Corp. (NASDAQ: DISH) filed its Reply today at the FCC to Comcast-Time Warner Cable's (TWC) Opposition to the Petitions to Deny their proposed merger. The reply is available here.
"Everyone who likes to watch high-quality online video has particular reason to worry about the proposed merger," said Jeff Blum, senior vice president and deputy general counsel for DISH. "More than 54 percent of the country's high-speed broadband connections would be controlled by the combined company, and all online video distributors would be at the mercy of Comcast-TWC."
Some key points from DISH's reply include:

p.4
"As companies such as DISH innovate and invest to meet the growing consumer demand for broadband-reliant video products and services, this chokehold over the broadband pipe would stifle future video competition and innovation, all to the detriment of consumers and the public interest. No set of conditions could conceivably alleviate these harms."

p.4
"The Commission's transaction review comes down to a simple question: does the merger serve the public interest? Based on the facts and the law, the answer is straightforward: no."

p.13
"Comcast-TWC will be able to destroy OVDs with impunity. And destroy them it will: DISH's experience based on the business case for DISH World and DISH's soon-to-be-launched domestic OTT service demonstrates that an OTT could still turn a profit if it were to suffer foreclosure at the hands of a standalone Comcast, but not if the effects of the foreclosure spread across both of the Applicants' systems. Based on his analysis of that business case, DISH's expert economist Professor David Sappington concludes that, while foreclosure conduct on the part of Comcast today is probably survivable for an OVD such as DISH's new OTT service, the same conduct would be lethal if undertaken by Comcast-TWC."

p.20
"The Applicants bear the burden of proving that their unprecedented merger will serve the public interest. To satisfy that burden in light of the merger's competitive harms, they need to climb a metaphorical Mt. Everest; but they are still on the tarmac at Philadelphia International Airport. Of course, the arguments that Comcast and TWC have left unaddressed reflect their larger problem: they cannot show that concentrating access to half of the country's high-speed broadband subscribers in a single company would serve the public interest."

p.7-8
"Almost no broadband subscribers seem to leave Comcast today. The Applicants claim that a large number of subscribers leave Comcast today and therefore would also leave the new Comcast, too, if it were to misbehave by blocking or degrading their service… This claim is the basis of the Applicants' contention that the combined company would have no incentive to block or degrade OVDs. … But the Applicants' central factual contention is demonstrably false… Comcast is almost like the Hotel California of broadband, an establishment guests can check into but never leave."

p.27-28
"Starting in late 2013, the speed at which Comcast's customers were able to access Netflix content dropped from about 2.1 Mbps in October 2013 to 1.5 Mbps in January 2014—a 25 percent decline. As a consequence of that decline, Comcast's customers went from being able to access Netflix content at 720p to "nearly VHS quality." … What actually happened was enlightening. Comcast says that the incident produced a dramatic increase in Netflix-related customer calls. The customers who called Comcast to complain, however, appear to have been venting their anger at their powerlessness to choose another provider. Because very few … of them seem to have left Comcast."

p.4
"As the petitions and comments demonstrate, high-speed cable broadband connections are the lifeblood of over-the-top ("OTT") video services that typically target national audiences. For that reason, among others, the relevant geographic market for this transaction is national. Furthermore, the relevant product market should include only those services capable of supporting the robust online video services that consumers demand, which requires a household to have actual and consistent download speeds of at least 25 Megabits per second ("Mbps"). If approved, the combined Comcast-TWC would control more than 54 percent of the broadband pipes in the United States that have speeds of at least 25 Mbps, and will be on a path to virtual dominance of the high-speed broadband market given that the combined company will pass nearly 70 percent of pay-TV households in the U.S."

p.10-11
"But the most effective witness against the Applicants' advocacy is Comcast and TWC's own marketing. While the Applicants tout a speed of 4 Mbps as suitable for HD video in this proceeding, their marketing documents … tell an entirely different story—they present 6 Mbps as suitable for sharing photos/downloading music, but a minimum of 50 Mbps as suitable for streaming/downloading HD video."

p.16
"Use of the Commission's own method for estimating actual departures of a rival's subscribers due to temporary foreclosure with a time horizon of six months leads to the conclusion that Comcast-TWC can reap eye-popping gains from denying its competitors NBCU programming. This will affect competition in a number of ways. It will cause subscribers to leave the competing distributor in favor of Comcast-TWC; it will cause dissatisfied Comcast-TWC subscribers to stay put instead of losing their access to NBCU; and it will let NBCU extract higher prices for its own programming by leveraging the fear of foreclosure."

p.16-17
"The merger's claimed benefits, if any, cannot outweigh the merger's harms. In the Opposition, the Applicants devote hundreds of pages to extolling the purported benefits of the merger. Many of these benefits are illusory or speculative—characteristically, the Applicants offer no more precise quantification than "hundreds of millions of dollars." Many of the benefits are also not merger-specific. The upgrade of TWC systems, supposedly made possible thanks to the merger, is a prime example. Public documents show that TWC had planned to complete this transition itself as a standalone company. This means that large portions of the claimed benefits attributed to TWC upgrades (again left unquantified) should be disallowed in their entirety."

p.18
"Conduct conditions would fail to address the merger's many harms. Conduct conditions did not work for Comcast-NBCU, and they would not work for this transaction, which poses substantially greater risks of harm. There is little reason to believe that Comcast will alter its pattern of repeatedly breaking promises. Moreover, the complexity of the gatekeeping function over the Internet choke points alone promises a myriad of technicalities that would likely allow circumvention of, and/or interpretive debate over, any conditions. Ultimately, if the Commission approves the merger believing that conditions are sufficient to address all the harms, there is no going back. The consequences of getting it wrong are too great, the risks too high. The public deserves better."

p.121
"Comcast did everything it could to circumvent implementation of the simple and clear news neighborhooding condition for more than three years. Bloomberg's three-year ordeal ended only after Comcast decided to acquire TWC."

p.6-7
"The Applicants fail to disprove the merger's anticompetitive effects. What the Opposition does not do is address several critical arguments made by DISH and others about the harms that would result from this proposed transaction. In some cases, the Applicants give conclusory, dismissive responses. In other instances, they do not bother to respond at all. The gaping holes in the Opposition include:

• The applicable case law—nothing said at all except for one case;
• The ability to foreclose OVDs—little said consisting of some token objections relating to the Applicants' three choke points;
• The proportionately smaller costs and larger profits of foreclosure due to the merger—nothing said at all;
• The reduced ability of consumers to benchmark based on neighboring offerings—the Applicants respond only that this reduced ability will not lead to higher prices;
• The argument previously made by Comcast's own economist that the existence of TWC as a separate company made NBCU foreclosure unprofitable for Comcast—nothing said at all; and
• The examples of Comcast playing for time and thwarting the conditions already imposed on it—only two out of four examples identified by merger opponents are addressed, and even then only cursorily.
Instead, the Applicants hang their case on one main claim: that the new Comcast-TWC would not have an incentive to foreclose other distributors because it would lose subscribers if it did so. This claim is disproved by the very data that Comcast has submitted to the Commission, leaving the merger indefensible."
 
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"Comcast is almost like the Hotel California of broadband, an establishment guests can check into but never leave."

What? To good to reference Gates of Delirium?
 
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Dish has it right. The merger is a bad idea and the consumer will pay the price.

We only have to look south of the border (mexico - for a fine example of monopoly control of tv and broadband to see what we will get).

The Mexicans finally got fed up and are breaking up any broadband provider with more than 50 percent market share. And whacking the tv barons by requiring free retransmission of the most popular tv channels and sporting events.
 
I agree with Dish but for a completely different reason.

Everything about this merger is good, except for the fact that comcast would surrender several markets such as Detroit to Charter and call it great land connections.
Nothing about it is good. We need more competition, not less in this market. Granting a single company such a dominant position will discourage new entrants and indirectly hamper increased competition.
 
Nothing about it is good. We need more competition, not less in this market. Granting a single company such a dominant position will discourage new entrants and indirectly hamper increased competition.
When I think about the locations where franchising is how things are done, I can't really imagine how anyone could defend choosing against such a juggernaut. Such a large organization could surely afford a considerable lobby and while that's probably an FTC thing, it should be considered by the FCC.
 
I'm worried about a proposed Comcast/TWC merger because I live in an area Comcast will have to rid itself of. I'm not sure what I'll end up with. Comcast has treated me well, even though I think I'm paying too much. I worry that I will have to pay more, and the quality of service will go down.
 
Dish Network: Expect More Carriage Disputes If Comcast-TWC Merger Is Approved By FCC http://www.ibtimes.com/dish-network...es-if-comcast-twc-merger-approved-fcc-1766076
Watching Dish Network these days is not unlike playing Whac-A-Mole. As the satellite-TV provider wages public battles with media companies, popular channels from Fox News to CNN to CBS are temporarily vanishing into the ether, leaving war-weary viewers wondering what’s next. Unfortunately things could soon go from bad to worse.A senior executive for Dish Network Corp. said Tuesday that consumers should expect even more contentious carriage disputes if the proposed merger between Comcast Corp. and Time Warner Cable Inc. is approved by federal regulators next year.“We’re likely to see more because the power that Comcast-Time Warner is going to have over programming is going to be enormous,” said Jeff Blum, Dish’s senior vice president and deputy general counsel.Blum was responding to a question from International Business Times at a Tuesday morning press call where he discussed public filings in which opponents of the proposed merger made one final plea to the Federal Communications Commission. The $45 billion all-stock deal, which is currently under review, would combine the country’s two largest cable companies and give Comcast more than a third of the pay-TV market.Blum said Comcast’s increased size would give it even more leverage in negotiating content deals for NBCUniversal, which it owns. That leverage could also allow Comcast to discriminate against its competitors in the pay-TV market, and quash emerging streaming services like Netflix Inc. “Comcast has the tools to withhold critical NBC programing from competitive [multichannel video programming distributors] and over-the-top providers,” Blum said. “So we think post-merger, the situation will even be worse, and consumers will actually be harmed more than they are being today.” Dish Network has been embroiled in numerous carriage disputes this year. Most recently, Fox News Channel and Fox Business were blacked out Sunday in an ongoing stalemate between Dish and Rupert Murdoch’s 21st Century Fox Inc.Dish recently reached a multiyear deal with Comcast SportsNet in multiple markets, but only after a touch-and-go negotiating process that almost led to a blackout of sporting events.
At Tuesday’s press conference, John Bergmayer, senior staff attorney for Public Knowledge, agreed that such disputes will become more common in the event of a merger, which he said would create a “disruptive” single dominant player in Comcast-TWC.“Comcast’s leverage would end up raising prices for people outside of Comcast’s areas,” he said. “I think it would be a natural part of that that you’d see more carriage disputes as some of the smaller MVPDs might try to resist ... they don’t want to have to suddenly pay more money because Comcast is getting a good deal that they’re not able to match.”Bergmayer and Blum spoke Tuesday on behalf of the self-explanatory “Stop Mega Comcast,” a coalition of consumer groups and private companies that includes Dish Network. The group announced Tuesday that almost 600,000 opponents have filed public comments to the FCC. Tuesday marked the end of the pleading cycle for filing replies.In its reply comments, Dish Network reiterated its litany of objections to the merger, citing “irreparable harm to competition and consumers, and no discernible benefit.”Read the full filing here.https://dishnetwork.newshq.business..._Network_Corp_Replies_MB_Docket_No._14-57.pdf
 
I think Comcast and Time Warner own a much of programming including NBC. If they get bigger, its only going to make programming negotiations tougher for Dish. Dish needs to get bigger one way or another.
 
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I thought about this, and you guys may see flaws, but the question has popped up about why Dish has not made a move on T-Mobile yet. With ATT and DTV, and TWC and Comcast doing their buyouts and mergers, Dish is fighting them, maybe they do not want to bring any unwanted attention over to them. Wait till everything is said and done and then they will make their proposal.
 
Just a note about Comcrap. My daughter moved she had Uverse had so so PQ and lost service too often. Now has Comcrap, PQ is actually good though a little surprisingly less channels in packages than Direct or Dish but does include HBO for the first year and I'm told you may be able to extend that another 6 months.
But the big thing is the DVR. As a guess, made in the 80's. Seriously. When you change channels the guide blinks then changes to the channel. This is their second receiver but both do it. And the guide itself has and end. When you get to the last channel you either have to go back or pick a channel you can't simply keep going and start at the begining again. If you change channels too quickly it gets confused and freezes a few seconds, then may or may not end up where you wanted to be.
That is what Comcrap is. They have no competition where my Daughter lives unless you get Satellite perhaps with competition they do or would do better. The reason DISH and DIRECT have the better receivers and overall better product is partly because of competition of each other.
 
Why did you not hook her up with Dish instead of Comcrap?

Edit: Should have said "suggest" Dish over Comcrap. Won't stick foot in mouth any further.
 
Why did you not hook her up with Dish instead of Comcrap?

Edit: Should have said "suggest" Dish over Comcrap. Won't stick foot in mouth any further.
Lol nice save. I've learned to suggest. She lives now in an apt complex, previously was in College and is getting married next year and might not be there long term, easier for now. She grew up with DISH from about 8 years old and will likely eventually go back to it.
 
bankers dont want to deal with Charlie, basically he burnt bridges and how he has fallen on his own sword due to these business tactics.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...p-said-wary-of-ergen-as-he-mulls-t-mobile-bid
Looks like all those lawsuits and broken hand shake deals are coming back to haunt old Charlie. His future looks limited in who he can partner with bank wise as well as company wise. He might just outsmart himself with all these gambling tactics.
 
The relevant part of the article to me is (assuming true) he had what looked a like deal with big time companies then wanted to change the terms. The rest is part speculation and explained by allegiances by bankers to other businesses involved. If it was just selling DISH to At&t I would understand a last minute regret, but happening again in a buying situation is not how to make friends in the business community.
 
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