DISH -VS- VOOM - A Settlement has been reached!
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Yeah you would. MonstersHD is the reason I upgraded to HD in the first place, and let me tell you... It kind of sucked. All the VOOM programming kind of sucked...if monsters hd did come back i wouldn't worry about dish adding FEARnet anymore
well it looks like dish is sticking with carrying only chiller anyway. i bet that its part of a package deal or they wouldn't carry it either.
Chiller might be okay if NBC would get off their duff and make it HD like they promised several years ago. While I see a show in the guide for Chiller that I might like to watch, I don't like watching in SD
Light Squared is what held up the waiver for Dish. While Dish's spectrum is not in danger of interfering with GPS like Light Squared's was, the FCC decided they needed to make a new set of rules to govern conversion of satellite spectrum to land based spectrum. So, Dish is waiting on the new rules to be redone, not the VOOM lawsuit.
I wonder why Dish doesn't just add FearNet already. How much can it cost? They already have Sony Movies, and other Sony channels. I'm sure they could strike a deal with Sony to add FearNet. Maybe they're waiting for the NBC/Vivendi/Universal/Comcast/YourCompanyHere contract negotiations to drop Chiller first?
i've wondered the same thing for 2 years. dish launched FEARnet's sister channel SMC when it was launched (or right after launch). I was thinking it was comcast holding up a deal. but, comcast now owns a part of chiller as well. FEARnet has gained some good shows such as tales from the crypt. If you scroll through all the AMC posts on the dish facebook page you can find a FEARnet request every now and then. I quit asking for it because it got me in trouble with dish before. comcast/nbc could make chiller and FEARnet one channel as well.
Too expensive plus I hear they will only package it with 3Net.
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I have no use for 3Net at the moment, but I'm sure others would like it. Direct also has 3Net but no Fearnet... I don't know if I buy the "too expensive" line either. Since very few outlets are carrying Fearnet, wouldn't that make them desperate to get it carried? Dish already has SMC, EPIX, GSN, TV Guide Channel, and I've heard will be adding TVOne shortly. That leaves FearNet and 3Net in that whole suite.
You are the one that made the comment about knowing how civil law woks, I didn't:
I don't know what my comment to costanzas_wallet has to do with you so I won't bother responding.
Who are these analysts you keep referring to? A few days ago I quoted Alan Gould, of Evercore Partners, who assigned an 85% chance that a legal settlement worth $1B could be had, a 14% chance of a settlement of $3.5B + damages and interest, with the AMC channels remaining off Dish and a 1% chance that AMC could lose the lawsuit and see its channels stay off Dish. Anyone that watches CNBC, reads Bloomberg, AOL News, or NBCNews.com, to name a few, has seen or heard Alan Gould at one time or another.
I understand more than you are willing to admit.
...Who are these analysts you keep referring to? A few days ago I quoted Alan Gould, of Evercore Partners, who assigned an 85% chance that a legal settlement worth $1B could be had, a 14% chance of a settlement of $3.5B + damages and interest, with the AMC channels remaining off Dish and a 1% chance that AMC could lose the lawsuit and see its channels stay off Dish. Anyone that watches CNBC, reads Bloomberg, AOL News, or NBCNews.com, to name a few, has seen or heard Alan Gould at one time or another.
I understand more than you are willing to admit.
Again, knock it off with your facts and linear arguments PT.
As I said in another post to jacmyoung, I am not taking sides with Voom anymore than I am Dish. I had no opinion of the case until Dish took that hit this past spring regarding the dumping of emails. The NY Supreme Court applied Zubalake (see Zubalake v UBS Warburg LLC) in assessing the duty to preserve electronically stored information (ESI). Based upon what I read regarding the document dumping, EchoStar allowed employees to determine which documents were relevant to the case, and in doing so permitted a slew of relevant emails to be permanently purged. Some here have said that it wasn't Charlie's fault, the emails were purged automatically. The court disagrees, "a party should not be permitted to fake a willingness to engage in settlement negotiations to allow it to freely shred documents and purge e-mails. Such a rule ignores the reality of how business relationships disintegrate.”
I'm not a lawyer, but I do read a lot of civil and criminal cases, and one of my favorite blogs is [law] Professor Doug Berman's "Sentencing Law & Policy." I have been frequenting his blog for many years and have learned enough to understand the rules and procedures of the court, and how to understand court rulings, etc. Its obvious enough to you and me that Voom has a strong case, if for no other reason everything that has come to light since the first of the year. For example, double-deleting documents in and of itself seems innocent enough, we all do it. What it shows is that the double-deleter, Carolyn Crawford, could have preserved the documents, had an opportunity to restore the documents to their original place, but choose to delete them, even though emptying the recycle bin does not actually delete the file.
The initial court filing alone would have given Dish an opportunity, but all the dirty deeds Dish has done, they must know that settling is not the worst of two evils.
