Echostar 8 Moving

[jerryez]

Nov 15 must be close to the 30 days. And not much fuel used.

 

[lentesubigo]

Any updates? I am anxious to see what they do with it and how quickly once it gets to its final position.

I hope they put some CONUS HD locals on there so I can “move.”

 

[lentesubigo]

SAT-STA-20080616-00122​

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E S2439
Grant of Authority Effective Date: 09/12/2008
Special Temporary Authority
EchoStar Corporation
On September 12, 2008, the Satellite Division granted to EchoStar Corporation, subject to conditions, special temporary authority for 30 days to
perform telemetry, tracking, and command operations during the relocation of the EchoStar 8 satellite from the 110° W.L. orbital location to the
77° W.L orbital location.​

SAT-STA-20080903-00164​

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E S2439
Grant of Authority Effective Date: 09/18/2008
Special Temporary Authority
EchoStar Satellite Operating L.L.C.
The FCC has taken the administrative action of listing this request as granted. The request sought continuation of operations of the EchoStar 8
satellite at the 109.8º W.L. orbital location as an in-orbit spare previously authorized in File No. SAT-STA-20080516-00105. The EchoStar 8
satellite was operated during the requested period pursuant to Section 1.62 of the Commission's rules, subject to the conditions specified in the​

prior authorization.



Does the second license mean that are not moving to 77? Is this why it is moving so slowly?

 

[harshness]

No, this means that they needed more time at 110W to complete the hand-off. E8 is still moving slowly towards 77W and it isn't likely to get there by October 12th. According to the latest TLE, it will reach the area on or about November 8th. I'm not sure how the expiration of the move authorization will be dealt with.

ECHOSTAR 8
1 27501U 02039A 08275.54527241 -.00000130 00000-0 10000-3 0 2690
2 27501 000.0383 269.1639 0003768 239.6228 314.3128 01.00468654 22429

 

[harshness]

I hope they put some CONUS HD locals on there so I can “move.”

This is not at all likely.

 

[harshness]

Nov 15 must be close to the 30 days. And not much fuel used.

November 15th is still 45 days away from today!

 

[Bradtothebone]

I don't know how to read TLE data, but if you go by the data on n2yo.com, it should reach 77W by October 20. I realize that this probably isn't 100% up-to-date.

Where can you go for a primer on TLE?

Brad

 

[nelson61]

I don't know how to read TLE data, but if you go by the data on n2yo.com, it should reach 77W by October 20. I realize that this probably isn't 100% up-to-date.

Where can you go for a primer on TLE?

Brad

Celestrak has the primer

 

[kstuart]

I hope they put some CONUS HD locals on there

That is mostly what is going to be on 77 West.

You must have a new "G3" smart card to receive anything on 72 or 77, by the way.

 

[Fitzie]

E-8, W-101.56 degrees, altitude 22,153 miles. If I recall correctly, altitude was 22,168 about 10 days ago. Faster drift?

fitzie

 

[harshness]

E-8, W-101.56 degrees, altitude 22,153 miles. If I recall correctly, altitude was 22,168 about 10 days ago. Faster drift?

The lower the altitude, the faster the drift eastward.

ECHOSTAR 8
1 27501U 02039A 08277.50529936 -.00000143 00000-0 00000+0 0 2735
2 27501 000.0392 274.0909 0003583 241.6179 296.5804 01.00513861 22442

Orbitron indicates crossing 77W on November 1st. I'm not sure what's up with n2yo.

 

[nelson61]

The lower the altitude, the faster the drift eastward.

ECHOSTAR 8
1 27501U 02039A 08277.50529936 -.00000143 00000-0 00000+0 0 2735
2 27501 000.0392 274.0909 0003583 241.6179 296.5804 01.00513861 22442

Orbitron indicates crossing 77W on November 1st. I'm not sure what's up with n2yo.

Perigee height: 35703 kmApogee height: 35733 km

They have dropped it down about another 25 km. That is 3 distinct moves down since they started and with it at about 75 km below geo today, it is moving along at at good pace.

 

[nelson61]

100W today and moving almost exactly 1 degree/day which puts it at 77W on Oct 25 if they do not change the altitude again.

 

[Laddyboy]

They don't seem to be in a hurry, do they? E* is one of the more frustrating companies with which one deals, since it seems the likelihood of more HD is dependent upon getting the EA spaceware in place.

 

[harshness]

100W today and moving almost exactly 1 degree/day which puts it at 77W on Oct 25 if they do not change the altitude again.

This is NOT indicated by the latest TLE which puts it crossing 77W on 31 October at about 5:12am GMT.

ECHOSTAR 8
1 27501U 02039A 08278.47226226 -.00000150 00000-0 00000+0 0 2747
2 27501 000.0399 273.2416 0003569 246.9903 282.0150 01.00526522 22453

 

[apollog]

Go Speed Racer, Go speed Racer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Fitzie]

Altitude 22,140?

 

[nelson61]

This is NOT indicated by the latest TLE which puts it crossing 77W on 31 October at about 5:12am GMT.

ECHOSTAR 8
1 27501U 02039A 08278.47226226 -.00000150 00000-0 00000+0 0 2747
2 27501 000.0399 273.2416 0003569 246.9903 282.0150 01.00526522 22453

Depends on which model you are using.

 

[nelson61]

Today's FCC filings include Echostar request for time extension on move. they say it's moving at 0.7 degree per day and will arrive on site at 77W sometime during the first week of Nov and waiting for approval to operate.

 

[harshness]

Depends on which model you are using.

The model that I'm using is SGP4. Are you using the authentic DoD model?

ECHOSTAR 8
1 27501U 02039A 08282.46213385 -.00000176 00000-0 00000+0 0 2774
2 27501 000.0350 280.7636 0004342 241.7089 284.0268 01.00564402 22490

Now crossing 77W on 27 October at 1pm Zulu.