First Look: DishPro Plus 33 Switch

[Miner]

Didn't the DPP44 literature say it only worked with DP Twin?

I have only legacy but when I upgrade to a 622 along with my 2 811s will work perfectly.

Also, DP Twins are more widely installed on Dish 500 units. Combine it with a Single or Dual and pick up the 3 sats and feed three boxes. So much better than only 2 with a DPP Twin, and hopefully more reliable.

Hopefully much cheaper than a DPP44.

Only my observations as an end user who needs more than 2 DPP outputs.

 

[RandallA]

The reason why this new switch doesn't work with a DPP Twin is that it doesn't have a power inserter. The DPP Twin requires more voltage and that's why the DPP44 has a power inserter.

I'm willing to bet that you'll still be able to power the DPP Twin if you have 3 DP receivers connected to the DPP33. We'll find out soon!

 

[rglore]

A DPP twin draws more power than a DP twin, it probably overloads a receiver powering both the DPP33 and a DPP twin. The DPP44 has a honking big external power supply so it's no problem.

edit, RandallA beat me to it while I was typing

 

[Tweakophyte]

Let's see the cost difference... that will be the best indication of why this switch exists...

 

[webbydude]

You'd also have to change the way the dish is cabled. Right now you get a DPP Twin with a DPP Single cabled directly to it, to pick up three satellites. You can't just do a DP Twin for DPP Twin swap.

I don't doubt that the switch is handy. I just think the naming is insane.

I'm sure the swapping out a DPP Twin for a DP Twin wouldn't be that bad. Besides, just secure the DPP 33 next to the dish and use the existing 2 cable runs as outputs for the DPP 33. Gives you an extra port out at that "central" spot.

 

[tfoss]

Where is the picture?

 

[webbydude]

Let's see the cost difference... that will be the best indication of why this switch exists...

Not to mention it saves a bunch of hassle for those 3 room installs where one of the rooms has a dual-tuner going on. I always hated explaining to a customer that I'm going to have to drill a 3/4" hole in the floor or wall due to the dual feed needed from a DP 34 switch

 

[Neutron]

Your 1000 has the DPP twin built in to it?

I meant my setup has a DPP twin.

Ignore my stupidity lately.

 

[David_Levin]

Notice they are still listing the switch as being UL approved for use as a ground block (though I'm sure that will still be a continuing topic of argument.

 

[webbydude]

ROFL!!

Good point. And do you *really* want to re-open that can of worms?

 

[RandallA]

ROFL!!

Good point. And do you *really* want to re-open that can of worms?

Yeah, let's not go there again!

 

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

Sorry to rehash that "can of worms" but can you direct me to a link where you guys talked about it? I seemed to have missed it. I promise not to talk about it here.

And if this switch is incompatible with 1000.2, then that raises suspicion on what LNBFs they're using for that DISH. I mean, if you put in a DP Twin and DP Dual for the Dish1000, you can certainly use this DPP33 switch. I don't see why you can't with the Dish1000.2 if you can also use a DP Twin and DP Dual for the LNBFs there.

 

[RandallA]

Summit,

Here is one but there are several threads about it:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=40444&highlight=switch+ground+block

 

[Pepper]

And if this switch is incompatible with 1000.2, then that raises suspicion on what LNBFs they're using for that DISH.

The 1000.2 effectively has a DPP33 built in, thus it's not cascadable with any switches.

 

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

Summit,

Here is one but there are several threads about it:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=40444&highlight=switch+ground+block

I promised not talk about it, but I had to thank ya. :

 

[SummitAdvantageRetailer]

The 1000.2 effectively has a DPP33 built in, thus it's not cascadable with any switches.

Hey, you're right. The LNBF on the 1000.2 dish has the DPP33 built in. I didn't realize it until this switch name was made known.

 

[gernskin]

Swapping dpp twin

Have'nt been in the field enough lately, when switching out a DPP twin I've always used (3) dual DP lnb's, will a DP twin default to 119 and 110 sats seperately to use on a Dp34 or DPP33
Gern

 

[Van]

To some degrea it is a step backwards as it only picks up 3 orbital slots, but it could potentialy mean that Chucky is still working towards a nation wide single dish solution and the still rumoured death of 61.5 and 148 would usher it along.

 

[mike123abc]

This switch is ideal for probably 90%+ of HD customers. They can get 119/110 + either 61.5 or 129. They can get 3 recievers on one switch. Actually I bet a splitter can be used on single port LNBFs to drive 2 of these switches if needed. This would allow up to 6 recievers and of them could be dual tuners.

I guess the question comes down to how many people have more than 3 satellites (I speculate very few) or more than 3 recievers (considering dual tuners probably very few on new installs where this would go). This switch is a great way to get the advantages of DPP and low cost.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Dont forget at Team Summit they told us about a DPP 64 switch they were working on.

Thats 6 orbital locations on 1 switch.