NFL 2012-13 Season

[Rey]

Kyle shanahan fined 25k for his actions towards a ref. still waiting on belichick but it's being reported john harbaugh wil not be fined.

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Lang Says Players Could Take Action If NFL Refs Issue Continues
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/09...-action-if-nfl-refs-issue-continues/#comments

 

[dfergie]

Very many more game costing calls and I wonder if the players could walk off in support of the refs ?

 

[fhsucade07]

I wonder how Seahawks fans feels ..

I'm a Seahawks fan (one of my favorite teams). I felt like it was a hard hitting and rather good game but it was marred by that call and I would rather have taken a hard fought loss with dignity than this joke. Not really a Packers fan anymore but that game was literally stolen. That said, I can't agree with ESPN that this was the game that was finally given away. While it was given away, they are stupid if they don't consider what happened in that Pats - Ravens game. I guess a W is a W but an asterisk will remain next to them like it or not.

 

[yaz96]

Broncos' Mays suspended a games for his hit on Schaub. Appealing. He's apologized repeatedly.

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PLUS 50k, in addition to his game check. Pretty hefty fine........

 

[yaz96]

I wonder how Seahawks fans feels ..

I'm a Seahawks fan (one of my favorite teams). I felt like it was a hard hitting and rather good game but it was marred by that call and I would rather have taken a hard fought loss with dignity than this joke. Not really a Packers fan anymore but that game was literally stolen. That said, I can't agree with ESPN that this was the game that was finally given away. While it was given away, they are stupid if they don't consider what happened in that Pats - Ravens game. I guess a W is a W but an asterisk will remain next to them like it or not.

Pete Carroll sure didn't seem to mind..........

Asked by Lindsay Rhodes if Seahawks wide receiver Golden Tate really caught that ball, Carroll provided a response that could melt Cheesehead Nation.

"Yeah, and I think it's cool that the league thought that, too," he said. "It's very questionable, it's a very questionable call to make. But it's simultaneous when they hit the ground. "

And the Pats-Ravens game wasn't even close to the f-up in last nights game.

 

[fhsucade07]

I'm not saying I'm a representative of what all Seahawks fans thought.

 

[talos4]

Gee, anything happen last night during the Monday night game?


After seeing the play, here's my conclusion. I know I'll get ripped for saying it but when I watch the play, I can tell Jennings catches the ball but you dont know if Golden Tate wrestles the ball away from Jennings. The camera shows Jennings' back is toward the camera. BUT with that being said I have a link that explains the play better. I had thought it was a simultaneous catch but if you see and read the link thats not it. Jennings had possession first so it would be an INT.

I do have a question, what if while Jennings was up in the air grabbing the ball, as hes coming down what if gets it wrestled away by Tate? Would it be a touchdown?


Heres the link anyway: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-seahawks-packers-call-was-wrong-2012-9

Here's another view once Jennings is on the ground

Looks to me Tate was tackling him at that point, Not trying to wrestle the ball away. Tates arm is around his neck No hand on the ball.

 

[Rey]

and to think we used to complain about the regular refs. they're not perfect but better. let me add that this call could've been screwed up by the pro refs as well. its not a common thing to see.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

and to think we used to complain about the regular refs. they're not perfect but better. let me add that this call could've been screwed up by the pro refs as well. its not a common thing to see.

I think the big difference on the game ending call is that the real officials would have conferred first before signaling anything. I'm a HS football official, and that's what we're trained to do when two or more of us have a different angle on a call. It doesn't take a long time to ask "What do you have?", and if different, talk it over. The guys in Seattle didn't do that.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Mortensen on ESPN is reporting that talks with the locked out officials ended at 2:00 am last night and are set to continue today....

 

[Rey]

I think the big difference on the game ending call is that the real officials would have conferred first before signaling anything. I'm a HS football official, and that's what we're trained to do when two or more of us have a different angle on a call. It doesn't take a long time to ask "What do you have?", and if different, talk it over. The guys in Seattle didn't do that.

i agree. what i don't understand (maybe i'm missing something) is why the replay official who is not a replacement didn't catch it either?

 

[cosmo_kramer]

i agree. what i don't understand (maybe i'm missing something) is why the replay official who is not a replacement didn't catch it either?

From what I understand, the possession issue is not reviewable. Scores are reviewed for things like the ball crossing the goal line, receiver's feet in, did the ball hit the ground, etc. Possession is deemed a judgement call....

 

[salsadancer7]

From what I understand, the possession issue is not reviewable. Scores are reviewed for things like the ball crossing the goal line, receiver's feet in, did the ball hit the ground, etc. Possession is deemed a judgement call....

Time to expand it because someone from a different angle could see possession and a ref from another cal see it as possibly being a tackle.

 

[Rey]

From what I understand, the possession issue is not reviewable. Scores are reviewed for things like the ball crossing the goal line, receiver's feet in, did the ball hit the ground, etc. Possession is deemed a judgement call....

i heard this yesterday but, i also read it was reviewable if they would've chosen to do so. people are all over the place with this call.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

NFL Reviewable Plays

 

[cosmo_kramer]

It looks like that according to (c)7 is why the controversial Raven FG was not reviewed. The kick appeared to go over the upright....

 

[Mets82]

Here's another view once Jennings is on the ground

Looks to me Tate was tackling him at that point, Not trying to wrestle the ball away. Tates arm is around his neck No hand on the ball.

Thank you for that different view. Now more than it ever you can see the Packers got screwed. I just want to know why the referees were so quick to make a decision. How about waiting a second or confer with the other referee? I mean based on that decision, the referees might as well have been on the 50 yard line instead of the endzone.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

ESPN's Mortensen is now reporting that a deal with the real refs is "very close" and there is a possibility that they could be back for this Sunday's games....

 

[yaz96]

ESPN's Mortensen is now reporting that a deal with the real refs is "very close" and there is a possibility that they could be back for this Sunday's games....

ANd then they'll be rusty and make mistakes.........