vBulletin Dropping IE 6 & 7 Support

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This is from the vBulletin Team... Thought I would pass it along. (vBulletin is the forum software we use here at SatelliteGuys.)
[h=2]Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 and 7 no longer supported.[/h]
After extensive deliberation and an in-depth analysis of global browser trends, we have decided to drop support for both Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 and 7 with the release of vBulletin 4.2.

Given their rapid decline in market share over the past year, Microsoft's recent decision to follow Chrome and Firefox with the implementation of silent updates, and the numerous hacks/kludges we've implemented in vB4 specifically for IE 6 & 7, we've concluded that continuing support will rapidly become untenable over the coming year.

This has been a difficult decision for the vBulletin team. While we respect the needs of all of our customers, dropping support for IE 6 & 7 will allow us to improve user experience for the vast majority of license holders, more effectively leverage our development resources, and enable us to move forward with exciting new vB4 projects.

We will support IE 6 & 7 in the upcoming release of vBulletin 4.1.11, and any additional 4.1.x release that may follow. This change will only go into effect with the 4.2.x series.

Please feel free to discuss this change - HERE.

Thank you for you continuing support of vBulletin 4!


Sincerely,

The vB4 Team

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I firmly believe that they should drop (or not support in the first place) any browsers that demand considerable custom coding.

A firm message needs to be sent to the browser developers that blowing off the W3C standards and/or encouraging use of proprietary methods is not an option.
 
I have to think that anyone who's savvy enough with computers to participate in online forums uses a more up-to-date version of IE if not Firefox or Chrome.

This amounts to nothing more than a "we announced we were dropping support..." and at least gave people a heads-up. On the other hand, how many users still on IE6 or IE7 will run across an announcement like this ?
 
These are the IE browser stats just for yesterday here at SatelliteGuys. :)

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Here is Firefox. (Man some people REALLY need to upgrade!) :D

Ah, but as these browsers "force" updates and start bloating their programs to the point where they don't load and perform quickly, efficiently, and without
lots of "garbage" the older versions look more attractive! It's the "less is more theory for me." I'll admit...I' back in the 3.xx versions of firefox because the new ones seem to have more issues, more often! Tried the newest, latest versions of firefox....then uninstalled, went BACK on all my machines to a known stable and faster version! And, for one simple reason.....In our studios, I can leave an old version of firefox running, come back, hit refresh and IT WORKS. The newer ones, left alone when you walk away freeze up after a time....causing about a 5 minute wait when you quickly need them!

So, back to the old for us! (keeping windows, antivirus, and other factors current, of course.)

Seems like everyone that writes these "codes" wants to force a bunch of garbage on the browsers and their users. ME? Simple is good. If it takes a couple different alternative browsers that are simple to render all my usual needs, I'm all for it. (early firefox, k-meleon, etc.)
 
Just look at the number of people using Firefox 0.1 to Firefox 5! They are missing out on all kinds of functionality. :D
 
Taking a further look at the stats from yesterday...

I am amazed that people are still hitting the site from Windows 3.1 machines! WOW!

Windows XP1,775,88526.4 %
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It's kind of odd. An "underdog" seems to take on the big boys. (like firefox vs. IE).... A good product is made, people like its functionality and simplicity, then it gets either changed radically, bloated, removed from availability, or bought out! I will defer to you on the versions listed, as probably we could run up to version 5 without trouble that I have had....but, I didn't have a "safe" version other than my 3.6xx available that I knew was saved here in my files.

I'm scared to search the web for "older versions" in case they've been messed-with if they're not on the original supplier's site! I respect companies that leave older, functional versions "up and available" to us. Granted, everything, in time reaches it's "intended useful lifespan" and we all must move on.
 
I am amazed that people are still hitting the site from Windows 3.1 machines! WOW!
What web browser runs on Win 3.1 ? Has to be an original Netscape (like Marc Andreesen Netscape).

Actually, reading quickly suggests that IE 5.01 would install and run on Windows for Workgroups 3.1. Not sure about versions of Netscape.
 
Why, it work just fine.
You realize that in addition to any feature enhancements Firefox adds in new versions, they include many, many security fixes as well ? It might "work just fine" but make sure your anti-virus/anti-malware/anti-spyware tools are kept up-to-date.
 
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