VOOM and Installs Inc: 1 for 5

occammd

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Here's how it goes:

When I signed up for VOOM and had given them my address they had my zip down as 33542, "I said no, it's 33549" a minimum of 3 times. Well install day comes and I get a call from an installer who is a couple hundred miles away saying he can't find my address. I told him that's because I don't live in Ft. Walton Bch, FL, I live in Lutz, FL. So needless to say I stayed home for nothing. They re-scheduled, a nice guy shows up who knows little about VOOM or HDTV, but gets things hooked up minus the DVI cable I need and grounding anything on the system.

I call VOOM, they send a DVI cable, but the DVI outputs seem so muted (I've asked for the actual output range, PC or HD, to cal my set w/SMARTIII but have received no response). I go w/component. I wait a few days, get my local map downloaded and get OTA. Then I get these silly STB problems on HD and dashed lines in saturated colors on SD as well as the box going out for a couple of hours every afternoon when it rains.

I email about the lack of grounding and they said they would send someone out to take care of it. Never happens. I ask for the larger dish 'cause my VOOM service is useless in the afternoons in FL and they set up an appointment. I wait home, no show, they call and say they don't have the antenna and will call when they get one. The installer is real nice and calls a few days later to tell me he still doesn't have it, but will keep me posted. Never hear from him again.

I decide to cancel, call, and set up an uninstall. I get an email the next day congratulating me on my choice of VOOM and to get ready for my upcoming INSTALL. The date is correct, so I call installs inc. and tell them it is supposed to be an uninstall. They say it says install, no kidding, but lets keep the date and I'll call VOOM to get it changed to an uninstall. Call VOOM, they change my city 'cause after all these discussions they still have me living in Ft. Walton Bch even though it is at least a couple hundred miles from the zip code that they have for my address, then we change it to an uninstall. By the way, I have already had the phoine interviews for cancelling my service so I know someone knew it was an uninstall.

I get a call from VOOM the day before they are supposed to come confirming my install. "It's an uninstall", I say, "The work order says install", she says. "I have the VOOM person sitting right next to me, I will get this taken care of right away, we do radio shack and others here so it gets confusing". Great. I stay home, they call the day of the uninstall. "Our installer is sick, he can't come out today, but I know some some people in your area and they can come out on Saturday if they have the equipment". "What equipment? It's an uninstall". "It says here its an install". Oh boy, no its an uninstall and I will be here Saturday morning waiting. OK, appointment's set up. They call my wife on Friday to make sure we are ready for our install. "It's an uninstall she says". Saturday July 3rd I am supposed to be getting ready for about 30 people coming the next day, but I hold off in the AM for these guys. All day, no-one shows.

They call yesterday and want to set up an appointment for Tuesday to come out and my wife answers the phone. Okey dokey she says, "You have set up appointments a number of times and have not shown up so forget it. Call us some time when your in the area and we may be home for you to come get your stuff". That was an interesting way of handling it I thought to myself, but she's right. "The installer says he tried to call, but our phone was busy for 2 hours on Saturday", she says. What a load of crap, we don't use the land line 'cause we are dropping it and my cell, which is the other number they have, goes to voicemail immediately. I got no messages and they had the right numbers.

I think the next time they call for the appointment I am going to fax them a contract at my normal billing rate. If they don't show, they can pay my rate for the 4 hours I sit and wait. enough is enough.

I did love Monsters though!
 
RE: [VOOM] VOOM and Installs Inc: 1 for 5

That's just painful to hear and I'm sure Wilt and Dragonlady_Mom and anyone
else at VOOM who cares will not be happy campers with yet another messed
over customer.

I'm glad I'm up and running with the exception of my ABC channel. My
installer was on time, professional and did a great job. You know someone
once said that happy customers don't post on these boards and don't speak
up. Only the pissed off customers do. That's very true. VOOM has thousands
of customers now and I'm sure 95+ percent are happy campers. It's the 5%
that you hear from. Unfortunately VOOM isn't the only company around that
has this problem. I'm quite sure there are DTV and DISH customers who
have/had similiar bad experiences at one point or another.

Also, let's not forget VOOM is going above and beyond the call by providing
an OTA antenna instead of sending locals thru the satellite. I posted a msg
on this board about a week ago about OTA reception and how difficult it can
be. That's not VOOM's fault.

I applaud VOOM and those at VOOM (Wilt/Dragonlady_Mom) who care about us and
the VOOM service.

Robert Heitner
Kemah, TX

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From: occammd [mailto:eek:ccammd.18z8gn@nobody.satelliteguys.us]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:37 AM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VOOM] VOOM and Installs Inc: 1 for 5



Here's how it goes:

When I signed up for VOOM and had given them my address they had my zip
down as 33542, "I said no, it's 33549" a minimum of 3 times. Well
install day comes and I get a call from an installer who is a couple
hundred miles away saying he can't find my address. I told him that's
because I don't live in Ft. Walton Bch, FL, I live in Lutz, FL. So
needless to say I stayed home for nothing. They re-scheduled, a nice
guy shows up who knows little about VOOM or HDTV, but gets things
hooked up minus the DVI cable I need and grounding anything on the
system.

I call VOOM, they send a DVI cable, but the DVI outputs seem so muted
(I've asked for the actual output range, PC or HD, to cal my set
w/SMARTIII but have received no response). I go w/component. I wait a
few days, get my local map downloaded and get OTA. Then I get these
silly STB problems on HD and dashed lines in saturated colors on SD as
well as the box going out for a couple of hours every afternoon when it
rains.

I email about the lack of grounding and they said they would send
someone out to take care of it. Never happens. I ask for the larger
dish 'cause my VOOM service is useless in the afternoons in FL and they
set up an appointment. I wait home, no show, they call and say they
don't have the antenna and will call when they get one. The installer
is real nice and calls a few days later to tell me he still doesn't
have it, but will keep me posted. Never hear from him again.

I decide to cancel, call, and set up an uninstall. I get an email the
next day congratulating me on my choice of VOOM and to get ready for my
upcoming INSTALL. The date is correct, so I call installs inc. and tell
them it is supposed to be an uninstall. They say it says install, no
kidding, but lets keep the date and I'll call VOOM to get it changed to
an uninstall. Call VOOM, they change my city 'cause after all these
discussions they still have me living in Ft. Walton Bch even though it
is at least a couple hundred miles from the zip code that they have for
my address, then we change it to an uninstall. By the way, I have
already had the phoine interviews for cancelling my service so I know
someone knew it was an uninstall.

I get a call from VOOM the day before they are supposed to come
confirming my install. "It's an uninstall", I say, "The work order
says install", she says. "I have the VOOM person sitting right next to
me, I will get this taken care of right away, we do radio shack and
others here so it gets confusing". Great. I stay home, they call the
day of the uninstall. "Our installer is sick, he can't come out today,
but I know some some people in your area and they can come out on
Saturday if they have the equipment". "What equipment? It's an
uninstall". "It says here its an install". Oh boy, no its an
uninstall and I will be here Saturday morning waiting. OK,
appointment's set up. They call my wife on Friday to make sure we are
ready for our install. "It's an uninstall she says". Saturday July
3rd I am supposed to be getting ready for about 30 people coming the
next day, but I hold off in the AM for these guys. All day, no-one
shows.

They call yesterday and want to set up an appointment for Tuesday to
come out and my wife answers the phone. Okey dokey she says, "You have
set up appointments a number of times and have not shown up so forget
it. Call us some time when your in the area and we may be home for you
to come get your stuff". That was an interesting way of handling it I
thought to myself, but she's right. "The installer says he tried to
call, but our phone was busy for 2 hours on Saturday", she says. What
a load of crap, we don't use the land line 'cause we are dropping it
and my cell, which is the other number they have, goes to voicemail
immediately. I got no messages and they had the right numbers.

I think the next time they call for the appointment I am going to fax
them a contract at my normal billing rate. If they don't show, they
can pay my rate for the 4 hours I sit and wait. enough is enough.

I did love Monsters though!


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They could never send locals in HD from the sat. And my understaing is they're not allowed to send the networks as HD via the sat either. So they'r not going above and beyond.

That said, everyone was very nice, just none of them had any idea what the other was doing and the missed installs cost me well over $1K.
 
occammd said:
They could never send locals in HD from the sat. And my understaing is they're not allowed to send the networks as HD via the sat either.
Wrong and Wrong.


D* has plans for HD locals, and there has been rumblings about Voom as well with new leases. A tremendous amount of space will be needed. But you are wrong to say "never".

They are allowed to send HD network feeds into O&O territories and into areas beyond the grade B reception contour. So id say your wrong on that point. Voom must do this to keep or sign customers in those areas.
 
Thanks for clearing it up, that's why I said it was my understanding. I wasn't quite sure, but had seen other posts on the legal network issues.

The reason I said that they could "never" send the locals in HD is due to bandwidth. So it may not be "never", but will not be anytime soon either.
 
RE: [VOOM] Re: VOOM and Installs Inc: 1 for 5

Don't ya just love competition <vbg!>

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From: vurbano [mailto:vurbano.18zepo@nobody.satelliteguys.us]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:55 AM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VOOM] Re: VOOM and Installs Inc: 1 for 5



occammd Wrote:
> They could never send locals in HD from the sat. And my understaing is
> they're not allowed to send the networks as HD via the sat either. So
> they'r not going above and beyond.
>
> That said, everyone was very nice, just none of them had any idea what
> the other was doing and the missed installs cost me well over $1K.

Wrong and Wrong.


D* has plans for HD locals, and there has been rumblings about Voom as
well with new leases. A tremendous amount of space will be needed. But
you are wrong.

They are allowed to send HD network feeds into O&O territories and into
areas beyond the grade B reception contour. So id say your wrong on that
point.


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occammd said:
Thanks for clearing it up, that's why I said it was my understanding. I wasn't quite sure, but had seen other posts on the legal network issues.

The reason I said that they could "never" send the locals in HD is due to bandwidth. So it may not be "never", but will not be anytime soon either.
30 markets in 3 years for d* is not "soon" either. LOL
 
Yeah I agree, but I think we understand the point. Good quality HD of local markets and subs is going to take bandwidth that just isn't there.
 
Well I guess my wifes technique for de-install worked. She told 'em no more appointments, call when your nearby and maybe we'll be home. They just called, he'll be over in half an hour to get the stuff and I didn't have to sit around waiting for him.

That's much better.
 

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