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The new service includes Live Feeds of ABC and Fox, along with TBS, TNT, BTN, etc.You're not going to get live feeds of Fox and ABC from your list above.
It is just a mini bundle service.
The new service includes Live Feeds of ABC and Fox, along with TBS, TNT, BTN, etc.You're not going to get live feeds of Fox and ABC from your list above.
That would seem to be a necessity, but I'm uncertain how another service with it being a part of wouldn't break the rules either. Unless they count this as a Philo for Sports sort of skinny deal. Which then could explain the teaming up. "We aren't doing it DTC... this is no different than Sling or YouTube TV."I don't know for sure, but that is my guess. Having a DTC offering I would think would have to be tied into the contracts for the satellites and cable companies - the plans of what happens if they launch DTC. Whether that means a reduced fee, can move to a higher tier or a-la-carte, etc. And, my guess is that the Aug/Sept 2025 launch date lines up with the expiration of whatever last provider(s) don't have a clause in their contract about DTC.
From the NY Times-You're not going to get live feeds of Fox and ABC from your list above.
Would not be worth it to me without DVR-ish capability.From the NY Times-
Disney, Fox and Warner Bros. Discovery have bundled 14 of their channels that show sports — the full list is ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, SEC Network, ACC Network, ESPNews, Fox, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, Big Ten Network, TNT, TBS and truTV — and the ESPN+ streaming service, and will sell them as a single package.
Is this a streaming service or a cable-like bundle of channels?
Both, sort of. It is definitely a streaming service that you will be able to subscribe to and watch on a variety of devices. But rather than a menu of different shows to watch on demand, there will be channels that you can watch live, much as cable customers do.
As a result, this means subscribers to the service will also be able to watch the non-sports shows these channels televise, like “The Simpsons” and “The Bachelor.”
What Sports Fans Need to Know About a New Streaming Service
The joint venture announced by Disney, Fox and Warner Bros. Discovery will offer a lot, but it may not be enough on its own for serious fans.www.nytimes.com
Just the rumors from the press, the word from those in the know is it will be $40.$35 seems kind of "cheap". Wouldn't pay it, but it seems kind of cheap. Again, trying to thread an impossible needle there.
I already posted this ESPN plan is incredibly idiotic and made that known at work, specially at the price ( cannot reveal) they are planning.That would seem to be a necessity, but I'm uncertain how another service with it being a part of wouldn't break the rules either. Unless they count this as a Philo for Sports sort of skinny deal. Which then could explain the teaming up. "We aren't doing it DTC... this is no different than Sling or YouTube TV."
So, instead of saying you are incorrect, that is what you follow up with?Would not be worth it to me without DVR-ish capability.
Well, if you require it, you were right.So, instead of saying you are incorrect, that is what you follow up with?
I can’t find the link ( I think it was Marchand ) where they guessed the price would be somewhere between the DTC RSN rates and the YT rate.Just the rumors from the press, the word from those in the know is it will be $40.
As an introductory rate is what I'm hearing, kind of like what cable/satellite companies do. The the price will then increase to some higher amount once the introductory period is over. Just a rumor of course from someone who works at one of the non-Disney companies.Just the rumors from the press, the word from those in the know is it will be $40.
I can only comment on what has been in the press (everyone received a memo to shut up).As an introductory rate is what I'm hearing, kind of like what cable/satellite companies do. The the price will then increase to some higher amount once the introductory period is over. Just a rumor of course from someone who works at one of the non-Disney companies.
Contracts do not allow that, would also hurt them with retaining their own subscribers.so when this starts will some cables co's Drop ESPN? unless they can get it as standalone?
I agree ...
Much better when you could get all your channels on the same platform with out leaving each to go find another.
Get used to it.Yes nothing beats a fall afternoon then bouncing between college football games from streaming service to streaming service
Takes way longer than that just to Open Apps, then find the game your looking for ...Get used to it.
And it is not hard, if you are watching something, hit home to exit out, couple of arrow presses, ok on the app, arrow presses, ok on the programming.
Maybe 6 presses, vs 3-4 on the old fashioned way.
Properly takes a extra 1.4 seconds.
Every time there is great news for streaming, we get fans of Traditional Live TV in here to complain about the smallest things.
I would believe some of you would be happy that there are more options coming that helps save money ( a lot of money over certain Cable/Satellite services), after 30 years of basically taking it from Cable/Satellite.
But if I did the same thing in the DirecTV/Dish forums, I would be reported to the mods immediately.
Keep waiting for Mr Rabbit Hole and the Bundle Guy to show back up.
Not on most smart TVs. I recently had to help my parents add a Roku Ultra to their 2017 Roku TV because it was SOOOO SLOOOOW switching apps and YTTV channels. If you have a higher-end streaming device, it is like you describe, but many/most people seem to think the built-in apps on their TVs are as good when they aren't or soon won't be. I have a Sony 950H TV from 2020 which was reasonably fast running Android apps when new, but is pretty much unusable now. Meanwhile the 2017 AppleTV 4k I have is still quite quick. This is a real problem for a lot of people.And it is not hard, if you are watching something, hit home to exit out, couple of arrow presses, ok on the app, arrow presses, ok on the programming.
Maybe 6 presses, vs 3-4 on the old fashioned way.
Properly takes a extra 1.4 seconds.
I cannot speak for everyone else’s experiences, just as they cannot speak for mine.Not on most smart TVs. I recently had to help my parents add a Roku Ultra to their 2017 Roku TV because it was SOOOO SLOOOOW switching apps and YTTV channels. If you have a higher-end streaming device, it is like you describe, but many/most people seem to think the built-in apps on their TVs are as good when they aren't or soon won't be. I have a Sony 950H TV from 2020 which was reasonably fast running Android apps when new, but is pretty much unusable now. Meanwhile the 2017 AppleTV 4k I have is still quite quick. This is a real problem for a lot of people.
Not exaggerating. We're talking 10+ of seconds to change channels on live TV apps like YTTV or Hulu, assuming the app doesn't crash, and more like 30+ seconds to quit an app and launch another one. You and I may have fast streaming boxes, but most people are using Black Friday special "smart" TVs. I can't count how many people have thanked me for telling them to get a Roku Ultra, Apple TV 4K, or NVIDIA Shield when they complain about how slow their recent TV purchases are. It is ridiculous.But most that complain are obviously over exaggerating on how long it takes, we are talking a few extra seconds on a more current smart TV, maybe a few seconds longer on a older one.
For a true HD stream (via Plex), thing can't Wi-Fi to save its life. *sigh*I cannot speak for everyone else’s experiences, just as they cannot speak for mine.
But I use the newest Roku Ultra, damn fast.
Which is what I would recommend also.Not exaggerating. We're talking 10+ of seconds to change channels on live TV apps like YTTV or Hulu, assuming the app doesn't crash, and more like 30+ seconds to quit an app and launch another one. You and I may have fast streaming boxes, but most people are using Black Friday special "smart" TVs. I can't count how many people have thanked me for telling them to get a Roku Ultra, Apple TV 4K, or NVIDIA Shield when they complain about how slow their recent TV purchases are. It is ridiculous.
Faster or equal with the right device, better in other ways, picture/sound being the most obvious.And yeah, cable/satellite boxes can be slow too, but one of the promises of streaming is it is supposed to be "better" which most people would think would also mean faster.