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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Corrado" data-source="post: 1198667" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198667" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198667">Corrado said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> This is bad news for all of us. Has anyone contacted Skyvision for an official response for the 410s? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> No but they are still selling receivers and programming. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I just called Skyvision. The product rep claimed to have no idea what I was talking about. Time will tell. It will be interesting to see what comes of this.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="tvropro" data-source="post: 1196460" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1196460" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1196460">tvropro said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t want to go into further details in an open forum though. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Well.....post the details in the <b>What&#039;s Up There </b>area.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Diamond Jim" data-source="post: 1198816" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198816" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198816">Diamond Jim said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Well.....post the details in the <b>What&#039;s Up There </b>area. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I would but I don&#039;t have access to WUT. Id like to become a member what do you have to do to become one?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I just spoke to one of the higher-ups at Skyvision, and received this report:<br /> This news was released only last Friday, so they have not really had sufficient time to address all details yet. Both Skyvision and Satellite Receivers Ltd will be conducting tests in a very short time to confirm what sized antenna will be sufficient to use for C-band reception across the U.S. Those that have purchased DSR-410 receivers should not give up---it is my understanding that those receivers can be re-mapped for reception on C band / AMC-18 from 105 West. You will have to install a C-band antenna, and as I said, testing is planned to see how small will still be reliable.<br /> <br /> I personally see this whole development as a good thing. While unfortunate for anyone that cannot use a C-band antenna, the combining of all HITS signals to one place in the sky presents a great opportunity to revitalize the former C-band industry as an alternative to the small dish DBS systems. More channels in one location...no need for a motor drive...a true alternative to DBS with better picture quality. Very few if any problems with rain fade common to Ku-band. A way to re-energize existing neglected BUD antennas (there have got to be a lot of G-5 systems doing nothing out there).<br /> Details need to be worked out about transmission format compatibility, but the end result should be a great improvement in the number of channels that X4 Ku-band subscribers are presently getting. Wasn&#039;t that one of the complaints from some of the critics of the X4 programming packages? With just about every cable channel available in one place, it should be an non-issue. Give things a few weeks to work themselves out...simulcasting should begin shortly, and the existing Ku-band signals on X4 should continue until June.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Corrado" data-source="post: 1198796" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198796" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198796">Corrado said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I just called Skyvision. The product rep claimed to have no idea what I was talking about. Time will tell. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I talked to them too a client of mine wanted one of these systems within the next month. I told him the other day I would find out whats up. Skyvision told me thats not happening till May. They had no other input <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /><br /> <br /> Looks like C band only to me.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="mikekohl" data-source="post: 1198837" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198837" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198837">mikekohl said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I just spoke to one of the higher-ups at Skyvision, and received this report:<br /> This news was released only last Friday, so they have not really had sufficient time to address all details yet. Both Skyvision and Satellite Receivers Ltd will be conducting tests in a very short time to confirm what sized antenna will be sufficient to use for C-band reception across the U.S. Those that have purchased DSR-410 receivers should not give up---it is my understanding that those receivers can be re-mapped for reception on C band / AMC-18 from 105 West. You will have to install a C-band antenna, and as I said, testing is planned to see how small will still be reliable.<br /> <br /> I personally see this whole development as a good thing. While unfortunate for anyone that cannot use a C-band antenna, the combining of all HITS signals to one place in the sky presents a great opportunity to revitalize the former C-band industry as an alternative to the small dish DBS systems. More channels in one location...no need for a motor drive...a true alternative to DBS with better picture quality. Very few if any problems with rain fade common to Ku-band. A way to re-energize existing neglected BUD antennas (there have got to be a lot of G-5 systems doing nothing out there).<br /> Details need to be worked out about transmission format compatibility, but the end result should be a great improvement in the number of channels that X4 Ku-band subscribers are presently getting. Wasn&#039;t that one of the complaints from some of the critics of the X4 programming packages? With just about every cable channel available in one place, it should be an non-issue. Give things a few weeks to work themselves out...simulcasting should begin shortly, and the existing Ku-band signals on X4 should continue until June. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Im all for c band Mike. I hope that they add some other of the HITS channels to a mux that the 4D can get, that are only in combo mode now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="tvropro" data-source="post: 1198833" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198833" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198833">tvropro said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I would but I don&#039;t have access to WUT. Id like to become a member what do you have to do to become one? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I wonder if the mods notice those of us that would like access?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">some real good information there Mike<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="mikekohl" data-source="post: 1198837" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198837" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198837">mikekohl said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I personally see this whole development as a good thing. While unfortunate for anyone that cannot use a C-band antenna, the combining of all HITS signals to one place in the sky presents a great opportunity to revitalize the former C-band industry as an alternative to the small dish DBS systems. More channels in one location...no need for a motor drive...a true alternative to DBS with better picture quality. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>even at C-band though if they cram a bunch of channels on one transponder won&#039;t it look like mush?<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Very few if any problems with rain fade common to Ku-band. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>so true. Havent lost reception even in a pouring rain<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> A way to re-energize existing neglected BUD antennas (there have got to be a lot of G-5 systems doing nothing out there). </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>we had one of them...until the lake shore eroded away and tok the dish with it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /><br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="tvropro" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> tvropro said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I would but I don&#039;t have access to WUT. Id like to become a member what do you have to do to become one? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I&#039;ll explain it later. Not enough time right now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="corrado" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> corrado said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I wonder if the mods notice those of us that would like access </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>there are only a couple mods who can make that decison <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I would like to thank Mike Kohl for getting the answers for us. I was worried since I just installed my Dad&#039;s DSR410 yesterday. If I can help with any testing on C band with these let me know. I have a spare 6&#039; Fortec dish that needs a reason to be setup again.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Iceberg" data-source="post: 1198900" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198900" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198900">Iceberg said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;ll explain it later. Not enough time right now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Iceburg I PM&#039;d info to Diamond Jim to post in WUT about HITS. I hope this can taken into consideration to help me become a member.<br /> <br /> Thank&#039;s Tvropro <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Iceberg" data-source="post: 1198900" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198900" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198900">Iceberg said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> even at C-band though if they cram a bunch of channels on one transponder won&#039;t it look like mush? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Hits currently uses up to 12 services per mux. Even though there are 12 they still look better than the G3 NPS muxes. One thing most of us forget is HITS is feeding to cable companies so there not being as bandwidth stingy as NPS, Direct or Dish. It&#039;s sort of like a second generation master. I have compared the true masters to HITS. They lack a bit of depth &amp; definition and have a bit of artifacts but look pretty good overall. <br /> <br /> I&#039;ve been studying lately how all this digital encoding etc works especially digicipher. It&#039;s really interesting.<br /> <br /> Here&#039;s a good link:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.coolstf.com/mpeg/index.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.coolstf.com');" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">North American MPEG-2 Information</a></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><b>thanks to Mike Kohl</b><br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="mikekohl" data-source="post: 1198837" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1198837" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1198837">mikekohl said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I just spoke to one of the higher-ups at Skyvision, and received this report: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Thanks for getting us the info.<br /> I knew you or one of our other industry-connections would come through.<br /> <br /> If this had come up at CES, I&#039;d bet it would have been one of the lead stories.<br /> It&#039;s certainly got my attention!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Nps Update 1/22</b><br /> <br /> NPS UPDATE for AMC 18<br /> <br /> We got an update from ACC this morning. They are working with HITS to get amc-18 mapped into the 4dtv receiver<br /> and they will be working closely with HITS to make the transistion from ku-band to c-band seamless</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">cool <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Iceberg" data-source="post: 1201626" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1201626" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1201626">Iceberg said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> cool <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> From what I understand all the X4 hits channels are suppose to be available to us on c band. Now if they add some other HITS stuff that will be the bomb<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <br /> I wonder what minimum size dish will work well with it? (2 degree spacing) I have a client in limbo that I was going to install a X4 setup for next month. He may be able to put up a small c band dish but not sure. Right now He&#039;s thinking of going with Ku G10 DVB instead.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Skyvision has removed the DSR-410 from their website. If you search though you can find it still they just removed the link to it and not the page itself.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="tvropro" data-source="post: 1201700" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1201700" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1201700">tvropro said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I wonder what minimum size dish will work well with it? (2 degree spacing) I have a client in limbo that I was going to install a X4 setup for next month. He may be able to put up a small c band dish but not sure. Right now He&#039;s thinking of going with Ku G10 DVB instead. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> hopefully 6 footer will work fine <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Iceberg" data-source="post: 1201888" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/xen/goto/post?id=1201888" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1201888">Iceberg said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> hopefully 6 footer will work fine <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Im sure a 6 foot will have the gain but the 2 degree spacing issue may cause alot of errors and kill quality. If you ever want to do a test Ice with your 6 foot and sidecar let us know the results. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I know this fall I was able to get the free stuff on G11 real strong (+6.0 or so). The G3 mux was low (+4) but stable<br /> <br /> The nets on AMC1 were strong but scrambled (obviously)<br /> <br /> I dont remember what else I picked up at the time</div>
 
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