I have my DVR set to record 2 min early and end 3 min late. I have it set to record The Office and 30 Rock. For some reason 30 Rock is skipped. Why does that happen? The DVR should just continue recording!!! That has happened a few times now.
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You have to set one to end on time and the second to start on time. If they overlap, they will use two different timers. You must have a 3rd show recording as well, and it will need one of those timers and kick one of the other shows(30 Rock) off by priority. Check your scheduled shows and see what else is recording.
This happens to me quite a bit, but mainly from my own negligence. I have learned to go through and check when I create a new timer and make sure I do not have anything conflicting. Sometimes you have to get creative on doing the timers. I also do not like the fact that it defaults on 'all episodes' instead of 'new episodes' option when you select something to record. But that's just me 
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I think that by default the DVR starts 1 minute early and ends 3 minutes late everytime you record something. This is very annoying, since, as you've found out, the DVR is not smart enough to use a single tuner for overlapping shows and often hogs 2 tuners when 1 should be sufficient. You might want to do like I've done, and set the default to 0 mintues early and 0 minutes late. Next time you record something, go to "Options", then set 0 and 0, and then select "Set as system default". This should solve your problem and you'll see a lot less conflicts.
Actually if you leave the 1 min early 3 min late "factory" default it will corectly record back to back shows on the same tuner. (ending and starting times now 0) If you change either the early or late times then is when it no longer will use the same tuner for back to back shows causing conflicts.
IIRC it will truncate to 0 min before or after as needed if the extend time does not exceed 2 minutes (could be 1). As I use defaults of 1 before and 1 after mine has no problems with back-to-back programs except for the problems from the networks themselves.
My only problem was with Thursday where Grey's Anatomy, CSI, and 30 Rock are opposite each other. The solution was to put 30 Rock on OTA. (Lost one due to slip-on cable, slipping off.) That does not solve the problem of ER then starting before the hour and losing the opening by CSI preceding it--dog gone networks--nor the problem of Grey's randomly or not running long by 1 to 5 min as well as 1 min early shortening Ugly Betty, just trying to get more ad money.
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My only problem was with Thursday where Grey's Anatomy, CSI, and 30 Rock are opposite each other. The solution was to put 30 Rock on OTA. (Lost one due to slip-on cable, slipping off.) That does not solve the problem of ER then starting before the hour and losing the opening by CSI preceding it--dog gone networks--nor the problem of Grey's randomly or not running long by 1 to 5 min as well as 1 min early shortening Ugly Betty, just trying to get more ad money.
-Ken
I was under the understanding that if you used the "padding" then it would be smart enough not to cancel the next recording (say 30 rock after The Office). But if you actually go in and change the timer start and end times, then it would cancel that second recording. So maybe use the padding instead. If it goes over, you will have it at the beginning of the next show. Its better than losing the second show altogether.
If you can, you might be better off putting CSI on the OTA tuner. If i have shows running in succession, I try to have them record on the same tuner so any underrun or overrrun gets caught by the next recording.
If you can, you might be better off putting CSI on the OTA tuner. If i have shows running in succession, I try to have them record on the same tuner so any underrun or overrrun gets caught by the next recording.
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The CSI idea is a good one as CBS sets it's timing exact (with exception of following ball games. ABC is the net most prone to changing times of the program to slide to before & after the hour.
The CSI idea is a good one as CBS sets it's timing exact (with exception of following ball games. ABC is the net most prone to changing times of the program to slide to before & after the hour.
Everytime I record Grey's Anatomy, I miss the last minute of the program and have to go to the Practice to watch the last of the first show. So, I set the Grey's timer to end four minutes late and it skips the practice. Dish should adjust the timer to end on time and start on time and let us adjust those that need adjusting. Three minutes late is not three minute late when you miss the end of a program.
Exactly. If you pad the timer more than the default, it thinks the padding is important for that particular show and goes with it no matter what. Set if back to 1 minute early, or change the default to 2 minutes early.
Of course, I've always thought it would be nice if Dish had some hind of warning for when timers are skipped by priority so you can judge for yourself. I've had a few shows skipped where a simple notification could pf had me switch to an OTA recording to resolve the conflict. Other times I've had reruns go over new episodes of other things and not realized it until it was too late.
Also, some kind of "sharing" in the software might be nice. I, too, frequently have to watch a few seconds of the next time to catch the end of the previous show. It would be nice if the 2 recording could share that (default) 4 minute overlap.
I finally figured that one out a couple of days ago. That way, it also doesn't place one show on TV1 and the other on TV2 if there is a padded overlap.
The main problem is the TV networks in the way they schedule the programs to bleed over into one another. I know they have reasons for that but it tends to mess up the DVR scheduling and you have to get creative. The end of The Office does slightly cross over the 9:30 mark so you have to pad it by at least 1 minute.
The thing that annoys me about this is that I used to have Comcast in Boston (or Comcrap, or Crapcast; whichever you prefer) and this never happened. It seemed like the actual guide info was more accurate, and I never had to tinker with start and end times. When the Office and 30 Rock recorded, it got the endings dead on; no weird overlapping, no having to watch the beginning of one to see the end of the other... If that makes any sense...
Then you would need to set the timer on The Practice to start 4 minutes late. If you are actually changing the time on the Timer then the box is going to see that as absolute. Its not going to be smart enough to know that you added that time because its longer and now The Practice is not starting then (unless its in the guide that way). If the Grey's timer is, say , 8:00 - 9:04 and the Practice timer is 9:00-10:00 its seeing 2 different recordings from 9:00-9:04 and its going to follow priority rules. If you set the Practice timer to 9:04-10:00 then it should be fine. Using the padding, if it sees a conflict then it just doesn't record the padding. Yeah you may miss the last minute, but you won't miss an entire recording. The box isn't going to say "oh you added 4 minutes to this timer, you must want the next show to start 4 mintues late". All its sees is the hardcoded time for each recording.
What's worse is when the timer cuts the end of one show off and changes channels, so you can't even go to the beginning of the next show and see the end of the one you missed.
I have all my timers set to 1 minute before and one minute after and have not had any troubles with that.
As was indicated above, if you add MORE than the default, the DVR believes YOU have set a priority and will make sure you get what you ask for. It's your fault.
If you go with the defaults, the DVR will adjust to make sure everything is recorded.
I have many things recording on Mondays and Thursdays and have not lost anything yet.
As was indicated above, if you add MORE than the default, the DVR believes YOU have set a priority and will make sure you get what you ask for. It's your fault.
If you go with the defaults, the DVR will adjust to make sure everything is recorded.
I have many things recording on Mondays and Thursdays and have not lost anything yet.
