Distant Networks - Old laws gone and Now that Analog has shut down.

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Now that Analoge has shut down, and there are no laws in regards to digital distant networks and testing for them, has any one tried getting distant networks from Directv under this. Over at dish you just have to call ADD and they will give them to you. Just wondering if anyone knew of ordering info and if directv is doing this like how dish is.
 
My Neighbor just Tried, and D* denied.
They said because they currently offered HD locals in our area.
But All American Direct would give him 4 SD west,4 SD East,and 4 HD Either LA or Chicago.
Even though we still get locals through Dishnetwork.
 
Hemi 6.1 said:
My Neighbor just Tried, and D* denied.
They said because they currently offered HD locals in our area.
But All American Direct would give him 4 SD west,4 SD East,and 4 HD Either LA or Chicago.
Even though we still get locals through Dishnetwork.
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That would be cool. Sometimes I wish D* would give channels like E* does.
 
Hemi 6.1 said:
True. But this comes with a Price. The 8 East and West channels are not too bad in price. $12.99, But 4 HD networks will cost you $24.99 atleast. Can be Higher if you don't subscribe to the SD versions.
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Damn. I would be happier if D* would get all the HBOs and all of them in HD. It would be cheaper.:D
 
goaliebob99 said:
Now that Analoge has shut down, and there are no laws in regards to digital distant networks and testing for them, has any one tried getting distant networks from Directv under this. Over at dish you just have to call ADD and they will give them to you. Just wondering if anyone knew of ordering info and if directv is doing this like how dish is.
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Isn't this why Dish lost the ability to broadcast distant networks? Now if ADD does the same loose approvals, won't they too stand a chance of experiencing the same demise?
 
does anyone know why in the last couple of days has the ny/la channels apear in my guide iin the 80 range and 382 and up ..and i noticed ch 382 nbc sd out of la comes in at night>>>
 
cybok0 said:
I would be happier if D* would get all the HBOs and all of them in HD. It would be cheaper.:D
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If the HBO suite in HD is all that you want, DIRECTV is not a good choice as a provider at this time.

DIRECTV wrote the book about why you shouldn't believe any of the propaganda about adding HBO channels in HD.
 
DodgerKing said:
Isn't this why Dish lost the ability to broadcast distant networks? Now if ADD does the same loose approvals, won't they too stand a chance of experiencing the same demise?
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Apparently the rules have changed with the digital transition and the NAB wasn't paying attention. DISH is still prohibited from delivering DNS but AAD isn't.

I would imagine that once DIRECTV figures out what Charlie discovered, they will figure out some way of serving up DNS to those who want it.
 
DodgerKing said:
Isn't this why Dish lost the ability to broadcast distant networks? Now if ADD does the same loose approvals, won't they too stand a chance of experiencing the same demise?
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Yes for violating distant network laws in reguards to Anologe channels, Were an all digital system now an there is no such thing as a digital distant network according to the law, and the anologue laws dont apply to digital signals. There isnt a test for what contures a digital grade B.


Because we are Digital and no laws exist in reguards to a digital signal, ADD or Directv for that matter would not experance the same demise because....

1. Its not illiegal to retransmit a digital digital signal out of market... (no law exists in this regards)

Unless there was a law passed some time in the last 6 months (and there wasnt) The DTV swich helped satellite proivders as they can provide a digital signal without worry or legal action to anybody they want.
 
Yea it a BIG rip off IMO. I kept my 7 sd locals and Just added Chicago CBS and FOX HD for Football season. Plus I have my 4 HD locals and 8 SD locals from E*.

D* only offers me 7 Locals and 4 HD locals.



Locals with E* in SD
  1. WNEP 16 (ABC)
  2. WYOU 22 (CBS)
  3. WBRE 28 (NBC)
  4. WSWB 38 (CW)
  5. WVIA 44 (PBS)
  6. WQMY 53 (MY)
  7. WOLF 56 (FOX)
  8. WQPX 64 (ION)
  9. KTLA LA (CW)
  10. WCBS NY (CBS)
  11. KPIX SF (CBS)
  12. WABC NY (ABC)
  13. KGO SF (ABC)
  14. WNYW NY (FOX)
  15. KTVU SF(FOX)
HD with E* Locals
  1. WNEP ABC HD (scranton pa)
  2. WYOU CBS HD (scranton pa)
  3. WBRE NBC HD (scranton pa)
  4. WOLF FOX HD (scranton pa)
  5. WBBM CBS HD (chicago IL)
  6. WFLD FOX HD ( chicago IL)
All for $26 per month.
Plus I could still Get 6 more HD channels 2 from Chicago and 4 from LA.
2 more SD channels 1 from NY and 1 From SF.
and 4 more Super Stations , 2 from NY ,1 from Boston,and 1 from Denver.
Might be expesive but they are still options.



My locals with D* tv.
  1. WNEP 16 HD and SD
  2. WYOU 22 HD and SD
  3. WBRE 28 HD and SD
  4. WSWB 38 SD only
  5. WVIA 44 SD only
  6. WQMY 53 SD only
  7. WOLF 56 HD and SD.
With NO other local options available to me.
 
Poor Hemi. Too bad you don't live in LA. This is without any Distant network additions.

HD locals with Direct (10):

  1. CBS KCBS 2
  2. NBC KNBC 4
  3. CW KTLA 5
  4. ABC KABC 7
  5. IND KCAL 9
  6. FOX KTTV 11
  7. MNT KCOP 13
  8. PBS KCET 28
  9. PBS KOCE 50
  10. PBS KLCS 58-2


SD Locals with Direct (26):

  1. CBS KCBS 2
  2. NBC KNBC 4
  3. CW KTLA 5
  4. ABC KABC 7
  5. IND KCAL 9
  6. FOX KTTV 11
  7. MNT KCOP 13
  8. IND KSCI 18
  9. IND KBBC 20
  10. IND KWHY 22
  11. PBS KVCR 24
  12. PBS KCET 28
  13. ION ION 30
  14. IND KVMD 31
  15. UNI KMEX 34
  16. IND KXLA 44
  17. TFT KFTR 46
  18. PBS KOCE 50
  19. TMO KVEA 52
  20. AZA KAZA 54
  21. IND KDOC 56
  22. IND KJLA 57
  23. PBS KLCS 58
  24. IND KRCA 62
  25. IND KBEH 63
  26. IND KHIZ 64


SD Locals with Dish(24):

  1. CBS KCBS 2
  2. NBC KNBC 4
  3. CW KTLA 5
  4. ABC KABC 7
  5. IND KCAL 9
  6. FOX KTTV 11
  7. MNT KCOP 13
  8. IND KSCI 18
  9. IND KWHY 22
  10. PBS KVCR 24
  11. PBS KCET 28
  12. IND KVMD 31
  13. UNI KMEX 34
  14. IND KXLA 44
  15. TFT KFTR 46
  16. PBS KOCE 50
  17. TMO KVEA 52
  18. AZA KAZA 54
  19. IND KDOC 56
  20. IND KJLA 57
  21. PBS KLCS 58
  22. IND KRCA 62
  23. IND KBEH 63
  24. IND KHIZ 64


HD Locals with Dish (only 6):

  1. CBS KCBS 2
  2. NBC KNBC 4
  3. CW KTLA 5
  4. ABC KABC 7
  5. IND KCAL 9
  6. FOX KTTV 11

It is interesting that those in different markets pay exactly the same for local feeds even if they have many more times the number of local channels than those in other markets.
 
DodgerKing said:
Poor Hemi. Too bad you don't live in LA. This is without any Distant network additions.

HD locals with Direct (10):

  1. CBS KCBS 2
  2. NBC KNBC 4
  3. CW KTLA 5
  4. ABC KABC 7
  5. IND KCAL 9
  6. FOX KTTV 11
  7. MNT KCOP 13
  8. PBS KCET 28
  9. PBS KOCE 50
  10. PBS KLCS 58-2

SD Locals with Direct (26):

  1. CBS KCBS 2
  2. NBC KNBC 4
  3. CW KTLA 5
  4. ABC KABC 7
  5. IND KCAL 9
  6. FOX KTTV 11
  7. MNT KCOP 13
  8. IND KSCI 18
  9. IND KBBC 20
  10. IND KWHY 22
  11. PBS KVCR 24
  12. PBS KCET 28
  13. ION ION 30
  14. IND KVMD 31
  15. UNI KMEX 34
  16. IND KXLA 44
  17. TFT KFTR 46
  18. PBS KOCE 50
  19. TMO KVEA 52
  20. AZA KAZA 54
  21. IND KDOC 56
  22. IND KJLA 57
  23. PBS KLCS 58
  24. IND KRCA 62
  25. IND KBEH 63
  26. IND KHIZ 64

SD Locals with Dish(24):

  1. CBS KCBS 2
  2. NBC KNBC 4
  3. CW KTLA 5
  4. ABC KABC 7
  5. IND KCAL 9
  6. FOX KTTV 11
  7. MNT KCOP 13
  8. IND KSCI 18
  9. IND KWHY 22
  10. PBS KVCR 24
  11. PBS KCET 28
  12. IND KVMD 31
  13. UNI KMEX 34
  14. IND KXLA 44
  15. TFT KFTR 46
  16. PBS KOCE 50
  17. TMO KVEA 52
  18. AZA KAZA 54
  19. IND KDOC 56
  20. IND KJLA 57
  21. PBS KLCS 58
  22. IND KRCA 62
  23. IND KBEH 63
  24. IND KHIZ 64

HD Locals with Dish (only 6):

  1. CBS KCBS 2
  2. NBC KNBC 4
  3. CW KTLA 5
  4. ABC KABC 7
  5. IND KCAL 9
  6. FOX KTTV 11
It is interesting that those in different markets pay exactly the same for local feeds even if they have many more times the number of local channels than those in other markets.
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Nice. I bet NY Locals are nice too. But I don't live in those areas. And D* is the last place one goes in my area for local channels.
 
Does this mean that come football season, I can ask D* for the Columbus HD channels and expect to get them ?
From old rules, they would be in the same spotbeam.

Would this fall under the "Significantly Viewed" rumors that swirled around awhile back ?

Jimbo
 
Jimbo said:
Does this mean that come football season, I can ask D* for the Columbus HD channels and expect to get them ?
From old rules, they would be in the same spotbeam.

Would this fall under the "Significantly Viewed" rumors that swirled around awhile back ?

Jimbo
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Significantly viewed channels aren't provided in hd, unfortunately.
 
Jimbo said:
really ? You would have thought that they would ...
What about the rest of my statement, any thoughts about getting them ?
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We used to get WNBC in hd, but that was because WVIT in Hartford is an O&O station.
 
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