buying from dish

[MikeD-C05]

But, but...even though you own rx's they replace them for free if they fail. They won't let you pay less and assume the risk yourself because that increases the chance that you'll cancel once faced with a hefty rx repair or replacement charge.

Even if you own the receiver and want a replacement due to failure, they will give you one and you still own it on your account. Might pay shipping if you don't have the insurance.

 

[MikeD-C05]

Well that's because it's an access fee. Increase the number of available feeds, increase the price, plain and simple.

Access fee should go away if you pay out right for the joey. Look at streaming. You can have access on several TVs in your house on I pads , phones etc. That is what you are competing with now days so change to compete. Years, and years ago DISH offered the 510 PVR and if you paid on it for a year, it was yours and you owned it and no PVR ( personal video recorder) fee back then. They obviously changed their strategy after that receiver and started charging a DVR fee on all accounts with a hopper.

 

[tjboston5676]

Access fee should go away if you pay out right for the joey. Look at streaming. You can have access on several TVs in your house on I pads , phones etc. That is what you are competing with now days so change to compete. Years, and years ago DISH offered the 510 PVR and if you paid on it for a year, it was yours and you owned it and no PVR ( personal video recorder) fee back then. They obviously changed their strategy after that receiver and started charging a DVR fee on all accounts with a hopper.

It doesn't matter if you paid for it or not the access fee is still valid. That's like saying I bought my own skates so I should be able to use them for free at any skating rink I want to to. It doesn't work that way lol. You no longer have to rent skates but you still have to pay an access fee to get in.

 

[John2021]

Funny, that something they charge $7.00 a month a customer just to lease is worth nothing to them. Proves the price charged is bogus. I think DISH should of made the charges a "pay as you go" system and once the customer paid off the cost of the joey, the monthly charges stop. You own the joey. Especially if they don't want the joeys back when you cancel.

The additional charges paid monthly are what makes the cost of having DISH over the top for most people. I used to spend $15.00 for dvr fee on the hopper and then 2 x 7.00 = $14.00 for two joeys. So $29.00 a month in DISH fees before you add programming cost in. Now they did eventually change the policy and charge $2.00 less a joey if you owned them, which I did , but it would of been better if they never charged for them at all since I purchased them outright.

The only real reasons to buy your own boxes is..
If ones credit is completely trashed and the lease fee's are more than what one can buy it for and they don't qualify for a lease or if they want the hopper 3 and don't qualify for it or it's MSRP to lease it then it makes more sense to buy it as it would be cheaper to buy than lease it!!!
turn rooms on and off during things like the holidays
no need to send the junk back
or i heard of people not wanting to run there credit because there trying to buy a house and they don't want the ding on there credit report
or maybe there credits so trashed the only option they have is a flex pay acct where they gouge one for everything
or maybe there's a hidden gem on a site like ebay iv'e seen hopper 3's with joey 3's for like 65-70 smackers.. though id'e get the numbers off the boxes as that sounds sketch to me.. at that price i would wonder if they even worked also

That mirror fee will always be there unless people want to pay for there package more than once .. it would be nice if they did drop it to compete with streaming but they would make up for it in other places trust me!!! since we had dish they already had a rate hike within 3 months!!!

 

[dishdude]

It doesn't matter if you paid for it or not the access fee is still valid. That's like saying I bought my own skates so I should be able to use them for free at any skating rink I want to to. It doesn't work that way lol. You no longer have to rent skates but you still have to pay an access fee to get in.

I get what you're saying but that's old school thinking. People can subscribe to YTTV, but their own streaming devices (or just used apps already built into their TV) and stream 3 channels at the same time for no additional cost.

To me it only makes sense to buy Wallys. Avoid the DVR fee and pay only $5 for each additional receiver.

 

[John2021]

Access fee should go away if you pay out right for the joey. Look at streaming. You can have access on several TVs in your house on I pads , phones etc. That is what you are competing with now days so change to compete. Years, and years ago DISH offered the 510 PVR and if you paid on it for a year, it was yours and you owned it and no PVR ( personal video recorder) fee back then. They obviously changed their strategy after that receiver and started charging a DVR fee on all accounts with a hopper.

If you think dish mirror are bad look at direct's $10.00 per room no more first box included in the package price

 

[MikeD-C05]

If you think dish mirror are bad look at direct's $10.00 per room no more first box included in the package price

I only had Directv in addition to my DISH account, for one year when they had more HD channels than DISH did. So I didn't get a second receiver. I never had to deal with the additional receiver fee cost. But I have always bought all my receivers going back to 97 and I used to trade them into DISH Depot when they had an online store for my new receivers. He would give me credit towards the new ones. I did benefit when DISH changed the fees to $5.00 for Joeys that you own and the $10.00 dvr fee instead of the $15.00 if you own the Hopper.

At one time the 501 or 510 pvr, can't remember which one anymore, was the receiver you paid on for a year the monthly $5.00 fee and then you owned it at the end of the 2 year and no more fee.

Back then there were no PVR or DVR fees when DISH started offering their own PVRS in the early 2000s. They were more like a digital VCR, because no name based recording yet. I did pay the lease fee for that 2 years and then owned it.

They even advertised that fact as "tapeless recording" for NO fee unlike Directv, which did charge a fee. I remember Charlie talking about it on his Charlie Chat back then.

*Might be a Southern thing, because I never lease cars either. I have to own them. Trade them in towards credit towards the new car I am buying.

 

[John2021]

Maybe it's you have to agree 2 years

one reason to buy is.. i'll use the joey 3 as an example to lease the joey 3 is $40.00 and triggers another 2 years!!! now to buy the same joey is $50.00 and does not require a two year!!! alex i'll pay the $50.00 and avoid the contract and i'll get the $10.00 back within 5 months and then some since an owned joey is $5.00 and not the $7.00 like the leased joey is

 

[John2021]

I only had Directv in addition to my DISH account, for one year when they had more HD channels than DISH did. So I didn't get a second receiver. I never had to deal with the additional receiver fee cost. But I have always bought all my receivers going back to 97 and I used to trade them into DISH Depot when they had an online store for my new receivers. He would give me credit towards the new ones. I did benefit when DISH changed the fees to $5.00 for Joeys that you own and the $10.00 dvr fee instead of the $15.00 if you own the Hopper.

At one time the 501 or 510 pvr, can't remember which one anymore, was the receiver you paid on for a year the monthly $5.00 fee and then you owned it at the end of the 2 year and no more fee.

Back then there were no PVR or DVR fees when DISH started offering their own PVRS in the early 2000s. They were more like a digital VCR, because no name based recording yet. I did pay the lease fee for that 2 years and then owned it.

They even advertised that fact as "tapeless recording" for NO fee unlike Directv, which did charge a fee. I remember Charlie talking about it on his Charlie Chat back then.

*Might be a Southern thing, because I never lease cars either. I have to own them. Trade them in towards credit towards the new car I am buying.

i remember back in the days of dtv & ussb the mirror fee was 5-7 smackers back then for every extra box past the first one. this was before DVR'S

 

[John2021]

But $10.00 for a mirror fee is crazy even for each gemini air unless one does a BYOD

 

[John2021]

After searching the internets it seems alot of retailers are buying and hoarding boxes and charging double the price for em

 

[navychop]

…..while the getting is good.

 

[John2021]

…..while the getting is good.

unfortunately dish only leases the joey 4. you have to buy it off of amazon or solid signal

 

[telstar_1]

unfortunately dish only leases the joey 4. you have to buy it off of amazon or solid signal

Well then how to they get 'em?

 

[John2021]

Well then how to they get 'em?

Who the retailers i gues they buy em off dish