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If you're on Verizon you're not going to have good service in one state or city and not others. I tried Twigby (which uses Verizon) and there was no notable difference. I then switched to Mint because Twigby could not do Canada or Europe, plus it was even cheaper. Mint doesn't charge extra for Canada and it's low per-week in Europe. I was a little concerned at first, as even though the service was strong everywhere I went, it was down to 1 bar at home...But within a few months that resolved. I've never had any issue with it, anywhere. I think it's like $15/mo. and I get an annual-buy discount. Gov't might as well just give us free service...but that's for those who don't use a lot of data, like watching videos. I've never hit a limit. You can buy higher limits and still likely come out cheaper than verizon.

Mint is using T Mobile. However they are the lowest priority in the network.

Before I renewed with T Mobile I tested Ted AT&T and Verizon on my old iPhone 13 as it was unlocked and could so ESIM's. Both would let you test their network for a brig time (like 48 hours) so I put them through their paces.

At my house T-Mobile blew the other two away with AT&T in second place and Verizon in third. Verizon use to be the gold standard here.
 
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If you're on Verizon you're not going to have good service in one state or city and not others. I tried Twigby (which uses Verizon) and there was no notable difference. I then switched to Mint because Twigby could not do Canada or Europe, plus it was even cheaper. Mint doesn't charge extra for Canada and it's low per-week in Europe. I was a little concerned at first, as even though the service was strong everywhere I went, it was down to 1 bar at home...But within a few months that resolved. I've never had any issue with it, anywhere. I think it's like $15/mo. and I get an annual-buy discount. Gov't might as well just give us free service...but that's for those who don't use a lot of data, like watching videos. I've never hit a limit. You can buy higher limits and still likely come out cheaper than verizon.

It's not about data limits necessarily, although that is a big part of it. It's about QCI and network slicing. You get what you pay for, and MVNOs have a lower priority versus the MNO. If you are okay with the trade off of lower cost but being at the bottom of the totem pole, that's fine, but there are real world differences.

My co-worker has a cheap Straight Talk plan and he has definitely noticed the differences between that and our work issued Verizon phones. One of the offsite locations we support is not to far away from the local Six Flags. You want to see priority access versus de-prioritization in action, be in the area on a concert night in the summer.
 
Thanks. From what I've read recently eSIM only connects to AT&T or that's what what got out of it. Which explains why I never connected to native Dish.

Do you have any verified instances of eSIMs connecting to either Dish native or T-Mobile?
I don't, but I've only done a few customers' phones. I can ask some of the other guys
 
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Thanks. From what I've read recently eSIM only connects to AT&T or that's what what got out of it. Which explains why I never connected to native Dish.

Do you have any verified instances of eSIMs connecting to either Dish native or T-Mobile?
My new T-moble phone is eSimm.

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It's not about data limits necessarily, although that is a big part of it. It's about QCI and network slicing. You get what you pay for, and MVNOs have a lower priority versus the MNO. If you are okay with the trade off of lower cost but being at the bottom of the totem pole, that's fine, but there are real world differences.

My co-worker has a cheap Straight Talk plan and he has definitely noticed the differences between that and our work issued Verizon phones. One of the offsite locations we support is not to far away from the local Six Flags. You want to see priority access versus de-prioritization in action, be in the area on a concert night in the summer.
Since going off verizon with 2 different MNVOs I've noted absolutely zero difference in service quality. $15 (or $10) seems incredibly cheap for phone service, either compared to a verizon OR to our old landline billing. But is it that these are really cheap or that verizon is just too high? I don't see charlie making it in this competitive environment, at least not as a primary provider. I would foresee a series of assets sales
 
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Since going off verizon with 2 different MNVOs I've noted absolutely zero difference in service quality. $15 (or $10) seems incredibly cheap for phone service, either compared to a verizon OR to our old landline billing. But is it that these are really cheap or that verizon is just too high? I don't see charlie making it in this competitive environment, at least not as a primary provider. I would foresee a series of assets sales
It's $25 for non-Dish customers, and in either case, that's pay-as-you-go, bring your own device.
Other smaller services have similar pricing
 
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Since going off verizon with 2 different MNVOs I've noted absolutely zero difference in service quality. $15 (or $10) seems incredibly cheap for phone service, either compared to a verizon OR to our old landline billing. But is it that these are really cheap or that verizon is just too high? I don't see charlie making it in this competitive environment, at least not as a primary provider. I would foresee a series of assets sales
Charlie didn't make it as a MNO, Dish Wireless is dead. The series of sales already happened, 600 MHz and DoD to AT&T for $30B, AWS-4 and H block to Starlink for $17B.

Go somewhere with 60, 70, 80K people in a small area, and compare a $15 MVNO with a $100 post paid plan and you will see a difference. You get what you pay for.

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Dish has got the right idea offering their basic unlimited plan for $15 when you sign up for autopay. They need something to retain customers, and $15 per line might just do it for the older customers where data is not a priority,


I just don't know if I could ever see myself switching to ghetto wireless.

I pay around $25 per line with AT&T, even though both services use the AT&T network, I prefer having priority on my data in congested areas, and the fact I can walk into any AT&T store and get support, even at dealer owned stores.

I need support on Boost, now I got to drive to the hood, and I don't think Habib is going to want to help me like I would get at AT&T since I didn't buy my phone from him. Now to mention most boost stores are just a lobby with a single employee behind thick glass.

Xfinity has a really nice setup with their stores, Its really a shame that Dish didn't get Boost 15 years ago. Those Blockbuster stores would have made great Boost wireless stores and a service center for DISH customers.
 
Dish has got the right idea offering their basic unlimited plan for $15 when you sign up for autopay. They need something to retain customers, and $15 per line might just do it for the older customers where data is not a priority,


I just don't know if I could ever see myself switching to ghetto wireless.

I pay around $25 per line with AT&T, even though both services use the AT&T network, I prefer having priority on my data in congested areas, and the fact I can walk into any AT&T store and get support, even at dealer owned stores.

I need support on Boost, now I got to drive to the hood, and I don't think Habib is going to want to help me like I would get at AT&T since I didn't buy my phone from him. Now to mention most boost stores are just a lobby with a single employee behind thick glass.

Xfinity has a really nice setup with their stores, Its really a shame that Dish didn't get Boost 15 years ago. Those Blockbuster stores would have made great Boost wireless stores and a service center for DISH customers.
I just checked to see where the closest B&M store was and it is in the hood area.
 
You don't need to deal with phone stores. With an MNVO you're going want to BYOD, do everything online and be able to back it up yourself, such as by having reserve device(s) that you can readily transfer activation to in event of device loss or failure. If you must have the latest iPholly and are unwilling to foot it yourself, then the big co's are where you're likely going, and you will pay accordingly.

As I'm perfectly happy with a previous model phone bought for cheap on eBay, the MNVO low rate is perfect for me. I have always BYOD'd, even for years on verizon. If Mint Mobile, in using T-Mobile's "crappy" network as a low-prioritized customer, provides lousy service you couldn't tell it by my experience. My phone simply works as it always has- perfectly, everywhere, at all times. Including in Canada and Hungary.
 
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Dish has got the right idea offering their basic unlimited plan for $15 when you sign up for autopay. They need something to retain customers, and $15 per line might just do it for the older customers where data is not a priority,


I just don't know if I could ever see myself switching to ghetto wireless.

I pay around $25 per line with AT&T, even though both services use the AT&T network, I prefer having priority on my data in congested areas, and the fact I can walk into any AT&T store and get support, even at dealer owned stores.

I need support on Boost, now I got to drive to the hood, and I don't think Habib is going to want to help me like I would get at AT&T since I didn't buy my phone from him. Now to mention most boost stores are just a lobby with a single employee behind thick glass.

Xfinity has a really nice setup with their stores, Its really a shame that Dish didn't get Boost 15 years ago. Those Blockbuster stores would have made great Boost wireless stores and a service center for DISH customers.
You hit the nail on the head.

For me, and it seems like for you as well, I will always associate Boost with run down stores in the ghetto whose target clientele is pimps and drug dealers. From the moment the service launched as Nextel MVNO, it was clear who it was aimed at. Nextel was about no-nonsense business communications, Boost was the same, if your business was of the illegal variety.

The service has had multiple owners since that time, used multiple technologies, but to me, still to this day the Boost Mobile name is synonymous with a lifestyle I want no part of.

I don't have a reason to go there, but having a physical presence is nice, especially now in the f'd up world of eSIMs. Around the corner from where I work, all three providers have clean, well kept stores with an adequate number of employees. T-Mobile is TPR, Verizon is corporate and not sure about AT&T. It's nice knowing that when I get my Pixel 11s, if I have a problem with transferring the eSIMs I can stop in and be taken care of in a timely manner and not get mugged on my way in. Like I said in the other Boost thread, when I stopped into the one Boost Store in WNY that is not in the ghetto, the kid wouldn't attempt to help me unless I paid $15 since I activated the account online, not at that specific store. That is a really crappy way of doing business. And he would not have been able to help me anyway.

Playing armchair wireless CEO, Dish Wireless could have been something amazing. But they had no vision. They should have started where they always focused, rural America. They didn't have a ton of it, but they had 600 MHz, perfect for low density areas. Or go the other way and focus on B2B.

Dish is using Boost the same way Comcast and Charter use their MVNO relationship with Verizon. Cheap mobile service to create a sticky customer.
 
You don't need to deal with phone stores. With an MNVO you're going want to BYOD, do everything online and be able to back it up yourself, such as by having reserve device(s) that you can readily transfer activation to in event of device loss or failure. If you must have the latest iPholly and are unwilling to foot it yourself, then the big co's are where you're likely going, and you will pay accordingly.

As I'm perfectly happy with a previous model phone bought for cheap on eBay, the MNVO low rate is perfect for me. I have always BYOD'd, even for years on verizon. If Mint Mobile, in using T-Mobile's "crappy" network as a low-prioritized customer, provides lousy service you couldn't tell it by my experience. My phone simply works as it always has- perfectly, everywhere, at all times. Including in Canada and Hungary.
I've been doing BYOD since 2014 on MNOs, from the Motorola Google Nexus 6 to Pixel 10 Pro XL & Fold, I've had 14 unlocked BYOD Google branded phones during this time, paying full retail directly from the Google Store, except for the Nexus 6P, which I bought from Huawei since they did not charge tax. The last phone I bought from a carrier was the HTC One Max on Sprint.

I am not happy with pervious years devices and de-prioritized service. I'm not even happy with normal priority. I'd be on T-Mobile T-Priority and Verizon Frontline if I could, but oddly enough the official government sanctioned first responder network has more lenient qualifications.

As a tech enthusiast, there are still plenty of reasons for me to want a physical store to go to if needed. I could not activate my unlocked Pixel 10 Pro XL on Boost online. It took me many phone calls and a lot of frustration for me to get it activated. When I RMA'd my first Pixel 10 Pro XL, lying and saying it had defect in hopes I'd get the international version with a physical SIM as a replacement, and not having that happen, I had to go to the T-Mobile store to do the eSIM swap because of how messed up it is. If the Pixel 11 Pro Fold drops the physical SIM, I'll have to stop into an AT&T Store and have them transfer my current pSIM to an eSIM on the Samsung phone I had to buy, then transfer that to the unlocked 11 Fold, since its likely the Pixel 11 Pro Fold won't be FirstNet certified.

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Dish has got the right idea offering their basic unlimited plan for $15 when you sign up for autopay. They need something to retain customers, and $15 per line might just do it for the older customers where data is not a priority,


I just don't know if I could ever see myself switching to ghetto wireless.

I pay around $25 per line with AT&T, even though both services use the AT&T network, I prefer having priority on my data in congested areas, and the fact I can walk into any AT&T store and get support, even at dealer owned stores.

I need support on Boost, now I got to drive to the hood, and I don't think Habib is going to want to help me like I would get at AT&T since I didn't buy my phone from him. Now to mention most boost stores are just a lobby with a single employee behind thick glass.

Xfinity has a really nice setup with their stores, Its really a shame that Dish didn't get Boost 15 years ago. Those Blockbuster stores would have made great Boost wireless stores and a service center for DISH customers.
i'll stick with att i love there day pass when traveling to certain countries and being able to use my phone like i would in the states unlimited everything and high speed data no caps!!!! plus it's a tax writeoff for me
 
Charlie didn't make it as a MNO, Dish Wireless is dead. The series of sales already happened, 600 MHz and DoD to AT&T for $30B, AWS-4 and H block to Starlink for $17B.

Go somewhere with 60, 70, 80K people in a small area, and compare a $15 MVNO with a $100 post paid plan and you will see a difference. You get what you pay for.
Boost is steadily growing every month. Hardly dead. We have Boost phone and/or sim delivery and setup work orders every day.

You hit the nail on the head.

For me, and it seems like for you as well, I will always associate Boost with run down stores in the ghetto whose target clientele is pimps and drug dealers. From the moment the service launched as Nextel MVNO, it was clear who it was aimed at.
WAS WAS WAS. The more you post, the more I realize that you don't know WTH you're talking about

I don't understand this constant hatred for everything about Dish. If you hate Dish so much, why do you spend so much time in the Dish forum?
 
Dish has got the right idea offering their basic unlimited plan for $15 when you sign up for autopay. They need something to retain customers, and $15 per line might just do it for the older customers where data is not a priority,


I just don't know if I could ever see myself switching to ghetto wireless.

I pay around $25 per line with AT&T, even though both services use the AT&T network, I prefer having priority on my data in congested areas, and the fact I can walk into any AT&T store and get support, even at dealer owned stores.

I need support on Boost, now I got to drive to the hood, and I don't think Habib is going to want to help me like I would get at AT&T since I didn't buy my phone from him. Now to mention most boost stores are just a lobby with a single employee behind thick glass.

Xfinity has a really nice setup with their stores, Its really a shame that Dish didn't get Boost 15 years ago. Those Blockbuster stores would have made great Boost wireless stores and a service center for DISH customers.
Other than your blatant racism, we're setting up boost customers outside of "the ghetto" way more often than anywhere else. Every one of of these workorders I've been on have been in rural areas - where Dish is more prevalent, and newer suburban neighborhoods.
 
Boost is steadily growing every month. Hardly dead. We have Boost phone and/or sim delivery and setup work orders every day.


WAS WAS WAS. The more you post, the more I realize that you don't know WTH you're talking about

I don't understand this constant hatred for everything about Dish. If you hate Dish so much, why do you spend so much time in the Dish forum?
Right, what have they ever done to you
 
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Boost is steadily growing every month. Hardly dead. We have Boost phone and/or sim delivery and setup work orders every day.


WAS WAS WAS. The more you post, the more I realize that you don't know WTH you're talking about

I don't understand this constant hatred for everything about Dish. If you hate Dish so much, why do you spend so much time in the Dish forum?
Consider the word 'troll.'

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