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If you're on Verizon you're not going to have good service in one state or city and not others. I tried Twigby (which uses Verizon) and there was no notable difference. I then switched to Mint because Twigby could not do Canada or Europe, plus it was even cheaper. Mint doesn't charge extra for Canada and it's low per-week in Europe. I was a little concerned at first, as even though the service was strong everywhere I went, it was down to 1 bar at home...But within a few months that resolved. I've never had any issue with it, anywhere. I think it's like $15/mo. and I get an annual-buy discount. Gov't might as well just give us free service...but that's for those who don't use a lot of data, like watching videos. I've never hit a limit. You can buy higher limits and still likely come out cheaper than verizon.

Mint is using T Mobile. However they are the lowest priority in the network.

Before I renewed with T Mobile I tested Ted AT&T and Verizon on my old iPhone 13 as it was unlocked and could so ESIM's. Both would let you test their network for a brig time (like 48 hours) so I put them through their paces.

At my house T-Mobile blew the other two away with AT&T in second place and Verizon in third. Verizon use to be the gold standard here.
 
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If you're on Verizon you're not going to have good service in one state or city and not others. I tried Twigby (which uses Verizon) and there was no notable difference. I then switched to Mint because Twigby could not do Canada or Europe, plus it was even cheaper. Mint doesn't charge extra for Canada and it's low per-week in Europe. I was a little concerned at first, as even though the service was strong everywhere I went, it was down to 1 bar at home...But within a few months that resolved. I've never had any issue with it, anywhere. I think it's like $15/mo. and I get an annual-buy discount. Gov't might as well just give us free service...but that's for those who don't use a lot of data, like watching videos. I've never hit a limit. You can buy higher limits and still likely come out cheaper than verizon.

It's not about data limits necessarily, although that is a big part of it. It's about QCI and network slicing. You get what you pay for, and MVNOs have a lower priority versus the MNO. If you are okay with the trade off of lower cost but being at the bottom of the totem pole, that's fine, but there are real world differences.

My co-worker has a cheap Straight Talk plan and he has definitely noticed the differences between that and our work issued Verizon phones. One of the offsite locations we support is not to far away from the local Six Flags. You want to see priority access versus de-prioritization in action, be in the area on a concert night in the summer.
 
Thanks. From what I've read recently eSIM only connects to AT&T or that's what what got out of it. Which explains why I never connected to native Dish.

Do you have any verified instances of eSIMs connecting to either Dish native or T-Mobile?
I don't, but I've only done a few customers' phones. I can ask some of the other guys
 
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Thanks. From what I've read recently eSIM only connects to AT&T or that's what what got out of it. Which explains why I never connected to native Dish.

Do you have any verified instances of eSIMs connecting to either Dish native or T-Mobile?
My new T-moble phone is eSimm.

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It's not about data limits necessarily, although that is a big part of it. It's about QCI and network slicing. You get what you pay for, and MVNOs have a lower priority versus the MNO. If you are okay with the trade off of lower cost but being at the bottom of the totem pole, that's fine, but there are real world differences.

My co-worker has a cheap Straight Talk plan and he has definitely noticed the differences between that and our work issued Verizon phones. One of the offsite locations we support is not to far away from the local Six Flags. You want to see priority access versus de-prioritization in action, be in the area on a concert night in the summer.
Since going off verizon with 2 different MNVOs I've noted absolutely zero difference in service quality. $15 (or $10) seems incredibly cheap for phone service, either compared to a verizon OR to our old landline billing. But is it that these are really cheap or that verizon is just too high? I don't see charlie making it in this competitive environment, at least not as a primary provider. I would foresee a series of assets sales
 
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Since going off verizon with 2 different MNVOs I've noted absolutely zero difference in service quality. $15 (or $10) seems incredibly cheap for phone service, either compared to a verizon OR to our old landline billing. But is it that these are really cheap or that verizon is just too high? I don't see charlie making it in this competitive environment, at least not as a primary provider. I would foresee a series of assets sales
It's $25 for non-Dish customers, and in either case, that's pay-as-you-go, bring your own device.
Other smaller services have similar pricing
 
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Since going off verizon with 2 different MNVOs I've noted absolutely zero difference in service quality. $15 (or $10) seems incredibly cheap for phone service, either compared to a verizon OR to our old landline billing. But is it that these are really cheap or that verizon is just too high? I don't see charlie making it in this competitive environment, at least not as a primary provider. I would foresee a series of assets sales
Charlie didn't make it as a MNO, Dish Wireless is dead. The series of sales already happened, 600 MHz and DoD to AT&T for $30B, AWS-4 and H block to Starlink for $17B.

Go somewhere with 60, 70, 80K people in a small area, and compare a $15 MVNO with a $100 post paid plan and you will see a difference. You get what you pay for.

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Dish has got the right idea offering their basic unlimited plan for $15 when you sign up for autopay. They need something to retain customers, and $15 per line might just do it for the older customers where data is not a priority,


I just don't know if I could ever see myself switching to ghetto wireless.

I pay around $25 per line with AT&T, even though both services use the AT&T network, I prefer having priority on my data in congested areas, and the fact I can walk into any AT&T store and get support, even at dealer owned stores.

I need support on Boost, now I got to drive to the hood, and I don't think Habib is going to want to help me like I would get at AT&T since I didn't buy my phone from him. Now to mention most boost stores are just a lobby with a single employee behind thick glass.

Xfinity has a really nice setup with their stores, Its really a shame that Dish didn't get Boost 15 years ago. Those Blockbuster stores would have made great Boost wireless stores and a service center for DISH customers.
 

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