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The new Joey arrived and has been setup. Thanks again to Brittani and to all who sent suggestions.

Yes you did and he is grateful.

We are up to H393.

Done. Thank you for offering to help. It is appreciated.

NO. I just don't sign up for a call of this nature. I am not interfering with anyone doing their job and said nothing to suggest that. .

That is a helpful suggestion.

That is exactly how every sales person describes what they do. I am not saying that all salesmen are evil or have bad intentions. I am just saying that I do not choose to sign up for a sales presentation.

As it is with those making sales pitches

I am glad that worked out so well. I have heard some stories like yours and others where they were told they needed an installer to come out and make recommendations. I may try again at some point or I may live with what I have

Some of us do not mind listening to a sales pitch. In fact some might even enjoy it or at least listen to it willing. Others would prefer to avoid it. I fall into the latter category but I respect that others might like it. I hope you will return the favor. As for Bobby's way bring the only...

Maybe I was not clear about what I wá trying to but since the point was to avoid the install which they admit is more of a sales call than a necessary install I do not think I will do that. Also note that in both of the phone conversations I had with CSRs they were willing to send the requested...

Well I don't have a purchased one.

As some of you may recall I promised to mention it here if I tried again to upgradetoa Joey 4 w/o an installer/ sales ca;;. Well I tried again and I was turned down.

Could you tell us what the difference is? Your initial answer sounded like it was minor at best and subsequent answers have not really clarified things

Why if it is the same?

My Hopper 3 updated to 392 . I never had 391 so I cannot speak to any updates or bug fixes. I tried to post this earlier but it does not seem to be here.

It never came to me. My receiver went straight to 392.

What does this dish offer that earlier dishes do not?

Even I think that is unrealistic.

You know me. I try to look for the bright side.

And what might that contain?

Of course you are not the first to predict that their days are numbered.

AGreed. But are they moving to streaming?

Superstations?

There you go again! Once more you provide calm level headed advice and ruin a potentially good thread to bitch about Dish Service.