I am not able to get either channel you said. Just a couple I'll mention on the vertical side: Hidalgo 3819V3254, S-90,Q71 Azteca 3900V31350, S-90, Q70. Tried the new sat idea again, no luck.The V-Sde looks great on what I can receive. The H-Sde looks just as good. Tried imputing new...