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I was just going to post the same... was curious when Phoenix HD locals were going live. Since it's looking like June, and many network series are over by May, I'll probably just wait until August or September for Football and Lost and everything else to start up again. :)

Not at all, Charper -- simply to dispel this notion that's promulgated that HDLite is 'no big deal.' It was that attitude among the D* fans here that got me sucked into signing up for D* in the first place. D* doesn't have to list specs -- I subscribed to their HD service. HD is 16:9 at 720p...

I completely disagree. Compare my original answer to the poster's question vs. Dragon's original 'non-answer'. I didn't bait anyone, simply answering someone that's in the same position as I was. Answering with some specious, BS answer like 'they both are providing what they can' is...

I have moved on (canceled service as of last Friday). If you think 1280x1080 = 1920x1080, then you're not only blind, but bad at math as well. But I'm not a Dish fanboy, just a full HD fanboy... I was the whore for Cox's full hd as well when I could get it. I'd shill for D* too if they could...

So you don't feel HDLite is an issue for people thinking of making the switch? Funny how some are more willing to chalk the 'failures and mistakes' up to consumers than to the provider that is being less-than-honest with a service they provide. I'm posting the HDLite link as a caveat...

Well, I'll admit the link is a little misleading -- I found the BBB rating link at the StopHD Lite site. If anyone would like to make a compelling argument as to why an E* HD subscriber enjoying 1920x1080 HD should downgrade to HDLite, I'm all ears (or eyes, a the case may be).

Stop HDLite Wish I had found this before I switched from E* to D*. If you're happy with your current D* HD, that's great -- move along, nothing to see here. If you're an E* HD subscriber and thinking of switching, then read this and re-consider.

No, just that people like me that raise a complaint about D*s horrendous HD quality, and D* fanboys/apologists/water carriers like you tell us we're blind when we can clearly tell the difference between 1280x1080 (D*) and 1920x1080 (E*).

From what I understand, D* won't be full HD until Q3/4 2007. I made the switch from E* (811) to D*s H20 2 weeks ago for local HD (I can't get OTA). The difference in HD quality was astounding. I cancelled D* two days ago and ate about $280. Thankfully, something told me a few weeks back to...

Well, then we all lose -- I'm out $280, the sponsor is out $500, adn D* is out of a 2 year subscriber. Hurray for capitalism and dumbed down HD. I *DID* read READ **READ** -- that's not the point. I spent HOURS* here reading up on D*. There were very few mentions of HD Lite, and the few...

Thanks Sean, I agree -- I just wanna cut my losses and get back to the 1920x1080 quality I had. I'm taking a shot and sending in the rebate anyway -- the only requirements stated on teh rebate form are a receipt and proof of signing the D* agreement, which I have both. Says/mentions nothing of...

And now that I read your post again, I can see why. I hate to pull Mac snobbery into this, but from what I've gathered on the AVS forum is that the firewire capture we've done is still only possible on Mac OS X because of Apple's firewire SDK (I have many PC friends that have bought dirt...

When did I say I was watching TV on my computer? I recorded HD shows on my computer -- for free -- when HD DVRs were well over $1000. And with a 30" Apple LCD, why *not*?

It was firewire via the Cox Scientific Atlanta HD receiver. I ran a cable from the firewire port to my Mac, turning it into a Hi Def DVR. As far as I know, no satellite receiver/dvr has firewire (last I checked, that may have changed).

When I was with Cox, I was able to capture HD through the firewire port to my hard drive (ie, non protected channels, not HBO, etc). Recordings from DiscoveryHD and HD Net were clearly 'full' HD. [edit: through the firewire port of the Cox-supplied Scientific Atlantic HD receiver] While this is...

According to the DirecTV rep, no -- I'm not eligible for the rebate. I will re-read tonight when I get home -- the printed copy I have is too small to read the fine print. But from what i can glean from the rebate, I don't see anything explicitly stating I can't take part of the rebate because...

I had almost submitted the rebate, but after the first night it was apparent I wasn't happy with the service so held off. And yes, according to the DirecTV rep today, they will be sending me pre-paid postage cartons. She also supplied the address for the billing dispute department.

oops, sorry, my bad -- I misread. If Scott wants to private message me, I'll give him the sponsor business name and the names of the two gentlemen I dealt with. I'd rather not mention them in case there's a resolution or partial resolution. I'm not looking to besmirch/smear anyone's...

Basically, based on the sponsor's reputation here on the forums, I decided to purchase an H20 ($200) and 3 regular SD receivers through them. The first 4 scheduled installs never occurred; the first three I was never even notified that the installer wasn't going to show. It took three more...

Agreed, that's why I didn't name them. Based on the misunderstandings (on both sides) of my original post/complaint, I didn't want this post coming off as a service/sponsor trashing by mentioning names.

I went through a 3rd party (a prominent sponsor here). Once I contacted them about my disatisfaction with the service, I fell off their radar screen and they didn't respond to my queries. I called them today, and they more or less played dumb, said they didn't have experience dealing with a...

I figured as much. I had considered ebaying the equipment, but at this point I don't even feel like looking at a D* logo or dealing with it any more. I'll give the dispute letter a shot, but at this point I'm chalking up the $285 as a personal stupidity tax (there goes my beer budget for the...

All, I won't go in depth about my original issue, which is covered in another thread. Long story short, had the H20 installed in hopes of receiving local HD soon but was disappointed with the HD quality compared to my previous service providers. So I contact DirecTV today, and I had the...

Dish is not HD Lite, which is where I think the expectations/major disappointment come from -- the only Dish HD Lite (that I know of) is Voom, and possibly TNT-HD. I did another A/B comparison this morning of American Chopper on DiscoveryHD and the difference is night and day. Discovery was...

I'm really getting tired of your sh*t. Either put up or shut up. My screen name actually happens to be my last name. Since you can't dispute the fact that DirecTV is using HD Lite, and is clearly inferior under many circumstances, you take pot shots like a 3rd grader instead of intelligent...