i found the manhattan for 159.00, dont now about the realsmall receivers ,the open box10 got real hot the sv400/vs ultra never gets hot,so i like larger receivers,if tht makes any sense.
i wont c/ku band channels,ihave mesh dish,i was watching on 87 ,but my openbox10 stop working,now my c/ku band lnb broken now so iam now watching 97 on my smaller dishes,i wont meg4 an s2 channels, is my plan