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Muzak should just allow FMONE and ENVOE to be available to dish subs. Right now dish subs above a certain package (think it's 200 or higher) get all the muzak channels but FMONE and ENVOE. Why not? Then I'd switch from cable to dish and it'd be problem solved. 2 unique formats found nowhere...

Lets just hope I can recoup my losses on eBay or somewhere. I'll lose $$ if I return it. $85 was alot of $$ for me to begin with.:mad:

See, that's the problem, I wanted FMONE and ENVOE. I just made a pretty big mistake. :o

Could somebody please just tell me if the muzak still works or not?

Someone told me that muzak has now "locked" several channels on Echostar 119, meaning they are no longer FTA, this includes environmental. Figures, I finally get the reciever and they do this. Good thing I haven't opened the box yet.

I'm going to try Craigslist, freecyle is next to useless, at least here on LI. There are no local radio shows. It's frustrating because if I wanted to buy one it'd cost me almost as much as the reciever, which is arriving this week. I'd like to set this thing up soon!

So far no luck finding any mini-dishes, I've been scouring the neighborhood for weeks now. This is getting frustrating!

Trying freecycle, so far most ppl dont know what a dish "500" satellite dish is for or even what it looks like. Its only been a day, so hopefully someone will have a dish. I only want a small dish, because remember, I'm in an apartment...

What do you mean by "securing up their signals"? Is a bunch of FTA about to go away?

OK, thanks!

Where do you get free satellite dishes?

Yup, me too. I am going to use it for muzak just for now.

What kind of LNB and dish will I need? Generally want to start with a dish network "pizza dish", and use it for FTA music and NASA TV on echostar.

Just ordered it now. How will they give me the free shipping? It doesn't show up on the recipt.

What are the differences? The first one is cheaper, but is the quality any worse?

I've been looking around the neighborhood but haven't found any dishes yet, well, not ones being discarded. Plenty in use thouugh on roofs. Maybe I need to go to a neighborhood with Fios.:D Or I can buy them on eBay.

Muzak has some unique programming that not even the internet,XM, or sirius can provide.

I'm looking for a pizza dish, the ones that I see with Dish network. I think they are 18'' across.

The temptation to get into FTA is too great, plus it'll be cool listening to all the muzak channels. If it dont work through the window I'll mount it outside the window. If he thinks window AC's are OK (I got several) than his grounds for opposing a dish on the outside are small. The woman...

Actually I just started subscribing to sirius online, I wasn't thrilled at first but I am really getting into quite a few of the channels. Muzak isn't in stereo for the most part anyway, I aint an audiophile but from what I have heard of it in the stores, the audio quality is between FM and AM...

Yeah I have but they dont seem to have the unique formats muzak offers.

I know, but I really was just gonna get it for the music. I read FCC rules that allow folks with balconies to put up dishes but nothing otherwise. I don't have a balcony, patio, or any space outside my apt. Personally I think the FCC Rules are a joke, the LL shouldn't prohibit you from getting...

OK you wanted pictures so here ya go. The window... (25 inches across) Unfortunately there's no flat surface on the other side of it.

These are old windows, at least from the 1950s! The house is actually 90 years old! Would he be able to stop me from mounting something on the window ledge? If the law is on my side I am willing to go through with it.

I am not moving over this! It was hard enough for me to find a decent place on LI. Sorry having a dish aint THAT important to me. I'll survive.