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In addition, you won't even need to subscribe to YouTube TV in order to buy NFLST. Yes, it will be offered via YTTV but they're also going to sell it a la carte inside the regular free YouTube app via its new "Primetime Channels" subscription platform (which currently offers Showtime, Starz...

Eh, they were reportedly hoping to license out the mobile rights too but ended up doing that themselves via their new NFL+ service that streams through their own NFL app. I don't see why they couldn't sell NFLST through that same app.

Yeah, they'll definitely keep both existing systems running but only as long as they can. No point in switching out existing hardware or doing rooftop dish re-installations until it's absolutely necessary. But here's the problem: Dish's entire satellite fleet could be defunct (out of fuel) as...

Even if any of those sats had a 10 year design life to begin with, none of them doubled that because none of the sats have lasted 20 years. The longest was T4S, which launched Nov. 2001 and went defunct Oct. 2019, just shy of 18 years later. And it's somewhat of an outlier. Anyhow, doesn't...

No, I meant the newest sat, the T16. It was launched on 6/20/19, so given a 15 year lifespan, should be operational until at least mid-2034. As for those other sats you list, which are all older than the T16, here are their launch dates and then the 15-years-later dates (all info taken from...

There's a big benefit in eliminating your only direct competitor for the dwindling number of consumers interested in satellite TV. You don't have to be as aggressive in marketing. And there would be operational savings overall since you'd only be installing one hardware system, not two, going...

Yeah, something like that is what I've been predicting for a long time. Sort of like what happened with DTV when AT&T spun it off into a separate company jointly owned by AT&T and the investor group TPG. When the next deal happens, TPG is going to get their payout and exit. So I can imagine...

Welp, looks like I was right. Wait until election season is over and then try to get a deal done to merge Dish and DTV while the getting is good in 2023.

Wow, that's some crazy pricing. Who's your telco? I remember years ago that it was cheaper to get Comcast's broadband bundled with limited basic TV than it was to just get standalone broadband. Although that was also when their add-on broadcast fee for local channels (which is basically all you...

Yeah, I'm currently on Comcast's cheapest internet plan ($30/mo with a one-year contract, then up to the regular price which is currently $49/mo). It's advertised as 75 Mbps down and 10 Mbps up but Comcast typically over-provisions by about 20%, so I typically get speed test results of about 90...

Yes, but the same holds true TO AN EVEN GREATER DEGREE with the traditional cable TV bundle because it's aggregating even MORE content together for a HIGHER entry price than is the case with Peacock or HBO Max or Netflix or any other direct-to-consumer streaming service.

Not sure I see how it's worse for consumers to have the entirety of television divided between 5-6 major a la carte services (priced at $10-20/mo each) versus the old way, where you had to subscribe to a single basic cable bundle (priced at $70) to get stuff from all the different companies...

I've posted numerous times here and elsewhere about how I believe that direct-to-consumer streaming apps will continue to gradually cannibalize the content on traditional linear channel TV until a few years from now when what we think of as "cable TV" will be completely subsumed within those...

The biggest traditional players are already direct-to-consumer streamers too: Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery, NBCUniversal, Paramount, Fox. Well before 2030, those companies will have ceased trying to divide up their content into two different packages, cable vs. streaming. They'll collapse the...

The NFL will leave traditional TV for 100% streaming in their next round of contracts, come 2033. But it won't produce much of a tidal wave at that point because direct-to-consumer streaming apps will have subsumed and pretty much killed cable TV before then.

This, I think, is the main reason that the NFL wanted DTC streaming included in its new round of carriage contracts and why they want NFLST to shift to streaming as well. You have to go where the consumers are and if the NFL wants a future, it has to court younger viewers. And those viewers are...

Note that the hypothetical rules I outlined earlier are what *I* think would make sense. It's not a description of what Netflix (or any other SVOD) is going to implement. All we know with regard to Netflix is that they've been testing an account sharing plan in certain LatAm markets this year...

If you look at that in context of my earlier posts on this thread today, you'll see I'm referring to DTV Stream. I was just a bit lazy and only typed "DTV" in that most recent post. (At this point, they use "DIRECTV" to refer to the overall brand and specify their two services as "DIRECTV...

Oh, Netflix *definitely* has systems in place that know at any given moment which devices (e.g. iPhone vs. Roku TV vs. web browser) are accessing a given account, and where those devices are located (geo location and IP address). All the SVODs do. It's not hard at all for them to suss out when...

Right. But as streaming increasingly replaces traditional pay TV (cable/sat), we'll see it held to tighter rules, more like we see with traditional. Up until now, streaming has been the hungry underdog looking to grow subscribers more than anything else, and has been willing to turn a blind eye...

I believe DTV lets you change your "home network" once or twice per year in case you move or something. I guess changing internet providers (or possibly even gateways/modems/routers) could count as a changing to a new home network too? Anyhow, it wouldn't be hard to make the system lax enough to...

Eventually, I suspect that all the SVODs will have security in place to prevent account sharing the way that vMVPDs like DTV Stream already do today. Note that DTV Stream gives you a large (unlimited?) number of simultaneous streams on your home network but only 2 or 3 additional streams outside...

But this may be starting to change now that RSNs are going DTC. Bally Sports+ launched in the five markets where it has DTC rights for MLB teams back in the summer. But they have DTC rights for all the NBA and NHL teams on their linear RSNs, so they've now launched Bally Sports+ in all their...

Yeah, things will certainly be different in 2033 than today. I suspect that NFL games will be exclusively distributed via streaming apps in the next contract. I think it's an open question whether OTA TV even exists in a significant way by the mid-30s. And yeah, I've wondered the same thing...

Hmm, yeah, the advertising angle isn't something I had considered. I'm still skeptical that it could result in enough incremental Apple hardware and service sales to make NFLST net profitable for Apple at the prices the NFL is supposedly demanding. But it would help.