8/5/2010 3:05am - Uplink Activity Report - 49 changes

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SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 8/5/2010 3:05am - 49 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 08/05/2010 02:49A - 08/05/2010 03:05A

Channel Additions:
5250(7) - WVII [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-ABC) (NA)
5251(5) - WABI [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-CBS) (NA)
5252(2) - WLBZ [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-NBC) (NA)
5253(22) - WFVX [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-FOX) (NA)
5254(12) - WMEB [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Orono, ME-PBS) (NA)
8097(19) - WABID [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-CW) (NA)
5250(29) - WGTU [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Traverse City, MI-ABC) (NA)
5251(9) - WWTV [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Cadillac, MI-CBS) (NA)
5252(7) - WPBN [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Traverse City, MI-NBC) (NA)
5253(33) - WFQX [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Cadillac, MI-FOX) (NA)
5254(27) - WCMV [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Cadillac, MI-PBS) (NA)
5260(13) - WHAM [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-ABC) (NA)
5261(8) - WROC [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-CBS) (NA)
5262(10) - WHEC [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-NBC) (NA)
5263(31) - WUHF [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-FOX) (NA)
5264(21) - WXXI [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-PBS) (NA)
5150(16) - WNEP [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Scranton, PA-ABC) (NA)
5151(22) - WYOU [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Scranton, PA-CBS) (NA)
5152(28) - WBRE [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Wilkes-barre, PA-NBC) (NA)
5153(56) - WOLF [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Hazleton, PA-FOX) (NA)
9249(38) - WSWB [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Scranton, PA-CW) (NA)
9250(53) - WQMY [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Williamsport, PA-MY) (NA)
9251(44) - WVIA [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Scranton, PA-PBS) (NA)

Channel Removals:
4861 - VCT1 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4862 - VCT2 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4863 - VCT3 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4864 - VCT4 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4865 - VCT5 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4866 - VCT6 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4867 - VCT7 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4868 - VCT8 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
6804 - UP7 (NA) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)
6822 - UP5 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)
6826 - UP6 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)
6846 - UP11 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)
6847 - UP11 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)

Channel Moves:
4150 - SPEED [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Speed TV) (A) (H)
5344 - SPEED [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Speed TV) (A) (H)
5944 - TP204 [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (NA)
9452 - HBOZ [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Ooffice Zone) (A) (H)
9453 - HBOFM [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Office Family) (A) (H)
9454 - HBOSG [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Office Signature) (A) (H)
9459 - HBOLT [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Office Latino) (A) (H)
9468 - SPEED [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Speed TV) (A)
9478 - HBO-W [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Office (West)) (A) (H)
9486 - STZC [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Starz Comedy) (A) (H)
9497 - SK&FM [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Starz Kids & Family) (A) (H)
9587 - LTD7 [MPEG4 SD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (NA)

Transponder Changes:
Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam 21500 8PSK 2/3 removed

Channels in the system: 7508
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers
(FP) = Free Preview

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Bent82

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Am I reading that right? Did they finally add the Traverse City HD locals... to 61.5?!?!? Ugh, I have a 1000.2, and now I need to go get a wing dish.
 
isaacmorseMI

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Bent82 said:
Am I reading that right? Did they finally add the Traverse City HD locals... to 61.5?!?!? Ugh, I have a 1000.2, and now I need to go get a wing dish.

Traverse City is going to all EA. So you will need a 1000.4 dish.
 
sundude90

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I don't understand how they are adding FOX (22) in HD in the Bangor, Me DMA, if FOX HD is not available OTA. Dish's equipment is at WLBZ (NBC) 2, so I would think it would be hooked up OTA. I don't think they ran a fiber all the way to FOX & WVII in order to pick up FOX in HD.
 
HDRoberts

HDRoberts

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Methinks we need an update, as I imagine these all went to E15, not E3, E6 or E12.

I do find it disappointing that some stuff went on TP17, as I think the hope was this would go to spotbeam from E12.
 
kstuart

kstuart

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Methinks we need an update, as I imagine these all went to E15, not E3, E6 or E12.

I do find it disappointing that some stuff went on TP17, as I think the hope was this would go to spotbeam from E12.

Digiblur has already stated that it will not say "EchoStar 15" until the move is complete, since the stream information does not have satellite identification.
 
digiblur

digiblur

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I just updated the TID list on the uplink PC to reflect E15 now. Along with the new file format for TheList's new features...check them out.
 
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rocatman

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Methinks we need an update, as I imagine these all went to E15, not E3, E6 or E12.

I do find it disappointing that some stuff went on TP17, as I think the hope was this would go to spotbeam from E12.

There's a chance that TPs 17, 19, 21 and 23 will be used for spotbeams on E-12 but if not, this might be an indication of the E-12 power and/or uplink limitiations.
 
mike123abc

mike123abc

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It is also possible that it could still move to spot beam. They could just be checking the uplinks out now and then later when they have the E15 moves all done, turn on more spots on E12 and move the locals from CONUS to spot.
 
drdroo

drdroo

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I don't understand how they are adding FOX (22) in HD in the Bangor, Me DMA, if FOX HD is not available OTA. Dish's equipment is at WLBZ (NBC) 2, so I would think it would be hooked up OTA. I don't think they ran a fiber all the way to FOX & WVII in order to pick up FOX in HD.

There's many different ways this can be done. The cable company here originally used point to point microwave to get the locals into their network.

There's also no shortage of fiber on the poles, you don't need your own private feed. In all seriousness they could just pull them all in from a basic cable connection right at WLBZ.
 
sundude90

sundude90

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There's many different ways this can be done. The cable company here originally used point to point microwave to get the locals into their network.

There's also no shortage of fiber on the poles, you don't need your own private feed. In all seriousness they could just pull them all in from a basic cable connection right at WLBZ.

I talked with the head Engineer at ABC/FOX & he said that they won't be getting FOX in HD. He said they haven't set anything up to do so. It would take a lot of work to do that he said.

Also fox is not on cable in HD, is it?

Josh
 
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Mr Tony

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There is a post in the Dish area in regards to the engineers. Dish and Directv make deals with the owners of the stations so the local affiliates more often than not have no idea about the contracts signed
http://www.satelliteguys.us/2286926-post36.html

according to wiki the Fox is in HD on cable
WFVX-LP is the primary Fox and secondary MyNetworkTV-affiliated television station for Central and Eastern Maine that is licensed to Bangor. It broadcast a low-powered analog signal on UHF channel 22 from a transmitter in East Eddington near the Penobscot and Hancock County line. It can also be seen on Time Warner Cable channel 4 and in high definition on digital channel 704.
 
drdroo

drdroo

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I talked with the head Engineer at ABC/FOX & he said that they won't be getting FOX in HD. He said they haven't set anything up to do so. It would take a lot of work to do that he said.

We shall see. I wouldn't be surprised if Dish uses a local cable company to feed the locals into their network somewhere in the country.

Also fox is not on cable in HD, is it?

Sure it is.. That's how I get it right now.. It's been in HD on cable forever. :) On my TV I believe it's channel 88.1. DirecTV also offers it in HD, which they started around mid-2008. DirecTV also started offering SD locals around April of 2008. Dish started SD locals here in Dec 2005.. :)
 
digiblur

digiblur

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They could possibly be making a slot for it in HD for them to go HD later on?

You never know they could pull it from clear QAM somewhere. The local station themselves a lot of times are left in the dark on some of these things. Seen it too many times since Dish deals with the parent company and not the station themselves.
 
sundude90

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We shall see. I wouldn't be surprised if Dish uses a local cable company to feed the locals into their network somewhere in the country.



Sure it is.. That's how I get it right now.. It's been in HD on cable forever. :) On my TV I believe it's channel 88.1. DirecTV also offers it in HD, which they started around mid-2008. DirecTV also started offering SD locals around April of 2008. Dish started SD locals here in Dec 2005.. :)

So maybe they will pull the FOX HD right from the Time Warner cable one. I sure hope they do, I really like FOX.

Directv has FOX in HD, because it has it's equipment at Fox / ABC studios.
 
sundude90

sundude90

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There is a post in the Dish area in regards to the engineers. Dish and Directv make deals with the owners of the stations so the local affiliates more often than not have no idea about the contracts signed
SatelliteGuys.US - View Single Post - New HD local markets being launched

according to wiki the Fox is in HD on cable
WFVX-LP is the primary Fox and secondary MyNetworkTV-affiliated television station for Central and Eastern Maine that is licensed to Bangor. It broadcast a low-powered analog signal on UHF channel 22 from a transmitter in East Eddington near the Penobscot and Hancock County line. It can also be seen on Time Warner Cable channel 4 and in high definition on digital channel 704.

Thanks for the info. Hopefully Dish will figure out some way to get the FOX HD feed.
 
drdroo

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They could possibly be making a slot for it in HD for them to go HD later on?

That'd be quite a jerk job if so. I see a lot of DirecTV dishes here and I believe that having FOX in HD is part of the situation since it's only a digital SD subchannel over the air (and a weak signal too).

You never know they could pull it from clear QAM somewhere. The local station themselves a lot of times are left in the dark on some of these things. Seen it too many times since Dish deals with the parent company and not the station themselves.

I get ClearQAM with my Cable Internet connection. It'd make the most sense to me to pull it from the cable company. I don't know if they have to tell TW if they're doing that or if they already have permission because they worked something out with the station.
 
sundude90

sundude90

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That'd be quite a jerk job if so. I see a lot of DirecTV dishes here and I believe that having FOX in HD is part of the situation since it's only a digital SD subchannel over the air (and a weak signal too).



I get ClearQAM with my Cable Internet connection. It'd make the most sense to me to pull it from the cable company. I don't know if they have to tell TW if they're doing that or if they already have permission because they worked something out with the station.

Well, I sure hope they are going to do that. I wish that Scott or someone could look to see if it actually is a HD feed up on the Sat. But it might be a slate.
 
drdroo

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Well, I sure hope they are going to do that. I wish that Scott or someone could look to see if it actually is a HD feed up on the Sat. But it might be a slate.

You're going to have to learn something about patience sometime. Now might be that time.. ;)
 

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