Are Miami's Big Three wearing down before playoffs arrive?

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Are Miami's Big Three wearing down before playoffs arrive?

There will be games like this in the summertime, intense and emotional and physical sumo wrestling matches against elite teams, and you wonder if the Heat can possibly hold strong and firm, like the humidity around here.

Against the Thunder, they did not. They were done. Well before the 96-85 defeat was official, they were whipped, mentally and even more worrisome, gave the impression they were torn physically as well. Which raises a reasonable question: Can the Heat expect to go deep into May or even June if the legs of the Big Three by then are wearing thinner than Dwyane Wade's temper Wednesday night?

Normally known for his coolness, on the floor and off, Wade blew a fuse no one knew he had. He took off with the ball on the break in the fourth quarter, trying to trigger a comeback, and was challenged at the rim by Serge Ibaka, the Thunders' designated swatsman. Wade missed the shot, rather badly, then threw both arms in the air. Followed shortly after by some R-rated language.

"I don't comment about the refs," he said. "It was an emotional game."


Truthfully, the source of Wade's anger had more to do with Miami's inability to compete when it truly mattered. With the exception of a five-minute dunk contest in the second quarter, the Heat were outplayed, mainly offensively, shooting only 38 percent, and self-destructed at the end. Wade made 7-for-21 shots. LeBron James: 8-for-21. Chris Bosh: 6-for-17. Combined, that's a 21-for-59 night for the Big Three.

And here's more: Wade played 40 minutes, Bosh and LeBron, 39. At a time of the season when stars on other teams are being preserved for the postseason, Miami is still giving generous time to three players who'll be leaned on heavily once the playoffs begin. This is somewhat by necessity, partly because Miami is still trying to recover from a five-game slide, and partly because the supporting cast isn't making it possible for the stars to get a breather.

And even when there's no need to push them to the limit, here's what happens: LeBron somehow saw the need to play 41 minutes in a 30-point blowout win against the Spurs, Wade 39, Bosh 35. While these aren't exactly aging players with brittle bodies (although Wade has had his share of injuries), the regular season does have a way of taking a bite out of you, and you won't even notice the gash until the playoffs, when it's too late to sew it up.

For the season, LeBron is averaging over 38 minutes, Wade 37 and Bosh 36. Not exactly tendon-stretching playing time, but remember, these are heavy minutes for players who have multiple responsibilities. These three are running around the floor with the franchise on their shoulders.

Wouldn't it be refreshing for all involved if, for once or twice, Mike Miller could make enough 3-pointers to keep LeBron on the bench? Or if Udonis Haslem could recover in time (still no word on his return, by the way) to assume some of the inside heavy lifting from Bosh? Or if Mario Chalmers and/or Mike Bibby can contain the other team's point guard so Wade won't need to spend so much precious energy chasing a speedy and smaller player?

But Miami rarely gets any positive consistency beyond the Big Three. There's 28 feet of centers on the roster, and if you fused them together, they still wouldn't make Dwight Howard shiver. Everything is done by committee: center, point guard, sixth man, with none of it very effective for long spurts.


"We just have to keep encouraging them," Bosh said. "They just have to know they're going to get more opportunities down the line, and they'll have to knock them down when it comes time."

Given that, the Heat could be exposed in the playoffs by a team with tough interior defense, as the Thunder just did, with the addition of Kendrick Perkins. Or a team with a dangerous point guard; Rajon Rondo and Derrick Rose come to mind. Or a team with a center that plows through the middle, which sounds like Orlando and Howard. Or a team with depth that keeps sending in quality reinforcements.

When and if this happens, Miami needs to respond with the obvious weapons and advantages, and hope that Wade, LeBron and Bosh are still fresh enough by then.

Instead, as LeBron said: "Right now, we're still trying to grind and get better."

Getting better, well, that's the purpose for a team still trying to figure it out. But grind? That sounds an awful lot like wearing and tearing yourself out over the final few weeks of the regular season.

Will LeBron and Wade and Bosh still have what it takes come May? Or is the effort to get there taking something from them???


we'll see.....................
 
I still think they can't jell together. James and Wade are superstars that want the ball all the time and Bosch thinks he needs the ball all the time too and probably needs to touch the ball in order to get the inside and outside games going for them to be a better team.
 
Too bad. They colluded to join forces. They deserve exactly what they're getting. Being stuck in basketball purgatory for 6 more years is a perfect lesson for their greed. Them never winning a championship in these next 6 years would be a perfect message to the rest of the basketball world and would help the small/mid-market teams that have lost talent. I don't want to see this new trend set by LeQuitt, Wade and Bosh become the norm for the rest of the league. Otherwise, the NBA will consist of 4-5 really good teams and the rest of them mediocre or miserable. What fun is that?
 
Too bad. They colluded to join forces. They deserve exactly what they're getting. Being stuck in basketball purgatory for 6 more years is a perfect lesson for their greed. Them never winning a championship in these next 6 years would be a perfect message to the rest of the basketball world and would help the small/mid-market teams that have lost talent. I don't want to see this new trend set by LeQuitt, Wade and Bosh become the norm for the rest of the league. Otherwise, the NBA will consist of 4-5 really good teams and the rest of them mediocre or miserable. What fun is that?

Not disagreeing with your overall point, but when has the bolded part NOT been the case?


Sandra
 
Not disagreeing with your overall point, but when has the bolded part NOT been the case?


Sandra
exactly. I don't remember it being that much different in the past. When you had teams like Chicago dominating the rest of the league I still had fun. I love the game itself more than any team. But that's me.
 
....and it has been done for years in other professional sports.

Huh? The Saints come off an 8-8 season to win the Super Bowl, and so many NFL teams go from good to bad to good from season to season. Totally different from the NBA.

Baseball? You never know who will step up and make the playoffs from year to year.

Hockey? Fuggetaboutit! Almost anyone who makes the playoffs can win a series...or four.


Sandra
 
Not disagreeing with your overall point, but when has the bolded part NOT been the case?


Sandra
That's true. A related fact I read the other day: In the last 30 years, only eight NBA franchises have won championships.

EDIT: I went and took a look at other sports and came up with these numbers:

NFL - 15 different franchises in 30 years
MLB - 20 different franchises in 30 years
 
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That's true. A related fact I read the other day: In the last 30 years, only eight NBA franchises have won championships.

EDIT: I went and took a look at other sports and came up with these numbers:

NFL - 15 different franchises in 30 years
MLB - 20 different franchises in 30 years

The reason it is so tough for a NFL team to win is because the schedule is tougher the next year for those that win their division. They make them play all the other division winners.
 
The reason it is so tough for a NFL team to win is because the schedule is tougher the next year for those that win their division. They make them play all the other division winners.
While that's true, the point I was trying to make was that there have been almost twice as many different NFL franchises to win titles over that span than NBA ones...
 
While that's true, the point I was trying to make was that there have been almost twice as many different NFL franchises to win titles over that span than NBA ones...

I understand that. I was just saying that the NBA schedule is more set in stone, where they play the same teams every year the same amount of times. They don't in the NFL, making it harder for a team to repeat.
 
I understand that. I was just saying that the NBA schedule is more set in stone, where they play the same teams every year the same amount of times. They don't in the NFL, making it harder for a team to repeat.

And the NHL and MLB are similar to the NBA, but they still have a number of different teams comepting for the championship year after year.


Sandra
 
Huh? The Saints come off an 8-8 season to win the Super Bowl, and so many NFL teams go from good to bad to good from season to season. Totally different from the NBA.

Baseball? You never know who will step up and make the playoffs from year to year.

Hockey? Fuggetaboutit! Almost anyone who makes the playoffs can win a series...or four.


Sandra

The "usual suspects" are in the playoffs in ALL sports. There is no denying that.
 
The NBA is totally different than the other sports for all the reasons we've been stating.


Sandra

Baseball: the Yanks, Braves, Red Sox, Angels, Cardinals, Phillies, Dodgers, White Sox...who hog most of the free agent players.

NFL: Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Chargers, Ravens, Giants, Eagles and the Packers

Hockey: Rangers, Bruins, Flyers, Red Wings, Capitols, Canadians, Canucks and the Sharks

Those teams from their respective leagues are ALWAYS in the playoff hunt..year in and year out. You will get different teams winning the championship...but those teams above will ALWAYS be contention.
 
Baseball: the Yanks, Braves, Red Sox, Angels, Cardinals, Phillies, Dodgers, White Sox...who hog most of the free agent players.

NFL: Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Chargers, Ravens, Giants, Eagles and the Packers

Hockey: Rangers, Bruins, Flyers, Red Wings, Capitols, Canadians, Canucks and the Sharks

Those teams from their respective leagues are ALWAYS in the playoff hunt..year in and year out. You will get different teams winning the championship...but those teams above will ALWAYS be contention.



Because the NBA has so many teams making the playoffs there are also many NBA teams who are also in the playoff hunt year after year. There are teams 10 games under .500 in the Eastern Conference who are in the playoff hunt.

But the statement we're all talking about is not about playoff contention. The statement was:

the NBA will consist of 4-5 really good teams and the rest of them mediocre or miserable

And as we've all been saying, that applies only in the NBA.


Sandra
 
Because the NBA has so many teams making the playoffs there are also many NBA teams who are also in the playoff hunt year after year. There are teams 10 games under .500 in the Eastern Conference who are in the playoff hunt.

But the statement we're all talking about is not about playoff contention. The statement was:



And as we've all been saying, that applies only in the NBA.


Sandra

And my point was an addition to your original point overall in all professional sports. The same big money teams for their individual sport hog most of the free agents and will be in contention every year. You not gonna sit there and deny that when all you have to do is look at the standing of every single professional sport at the end of their respective season..and it's the usual suspects, as stated.
 
And my point was an addition to your original point overall in all professional sports. The same big money teams for their individual sport hog most of the free agents and will be in contention every year. You not gonna sit there and deny that when all you have to do is look at the standing of every single professional sport at the end of their respective season..and it's the usual suspects, as stated.

Two different points, and I'm not even disagreeing with yours. There is some truth to that, and it varies from sport to sport.

But HD's statement applies only to the NBA. In other sports teams can come out of left field and win a championship...New Orleans Saints, San Francisco Giants, Chicago Blackhawks, etc. Almost never happens in the NBA.


Sandra
 
That's true. A related fact I read the other day: In the last 30 years, only eight NBA franchises have won championships.

EDIT: I went and took a look at other sports and came up with these numbers:

NFL - 15 different franchises in 30 years
MLB - 20 different franchises in 30 years

It's funny how MLB always gets criticized for it's ecomomic diversity, but yet you have 20 different teams winning a championship over three decades (take out the Yankees five championships during this period, and you have a mind-boggling 19 different franchises winning championships over the other 25 years).

BTW, here's the NBA teams that have won championships over the last 30 years:
Lakers- 9
Bulls- 6
Celtics- 4
Spurs- 4
Pistons- 3
Rockets- 2
Sixers-1 (way back in 1983)
Heat- 1
 
Two different points, and I'm not even disagreeing with yours. There is some truth to that, and it varies from sport to sport.

But HD's statement applies only to the NBA. In other sports teams can come out of left field and win a championship...New Orleans Saints, San Francisco Giants, Chicago Blackhawks, etc. Almost never happens in the NBA.


Sandra

Because I think that FA change more in the NBA than any other sport.
 

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