Can’t view Rudolph tonight on directv stream

[Mr Tony]

So I have Directv Stream as part of my rent where I live. Interesting when I tune to my local CBS (KEYC) to watch Rudolph tonight I get this.
Is this normal? Why would Directv ‘black it out’ on the local CBS?

 

[lordodogg]

CBS doesn't have the OTT streaming rights to that movie, it's the same situation with Frosty the Snowman.
You'll also see that message on TCM during some movies on there, or on a non-Bally RSN during a game on there that isn't in market (e.g. most of NEPA where only the Rangers, Knicks, and non-MSGSN Devils games are in market on MSG)

 

[Mr Tony]

Lame………I get if I wanted to watch it on Paramount Plus but this is my local CBS that it’s blacked out on???

 

[lordodogg]

All CBS stations it's blacked out on, the network doesn't have the streaming rights.

 

[Mr Tony]

All CBS stations it's blacked out on, the network doesn't have the streaming rights.

LAME!!!!
So all other cable companies I can see it on but Directv stream I can’t! Saw it last year on local cable.
But if it was Directv satellite it would be no issues.

 

[lordodogg]

Yeah, cable and sat, OTA customers can see it just fine, but DTV Stream (as well as Fubo, Youtube, and Hulu or any other OTT provider) customers can't see it.

 

[lordodogg]

Luckily, Freeform/311 does have streaming rights to Rudolph, they're showing it on 12/3 at 7:10pm ET.

 

[Mr Tony]

It still is stupid. Just my opinion.

 

[Jimbo]

It still is stupid. Just my opinion.

Its called Contracts.

 

[lordodogg]

Yeah. Apparently CBS signed their deal for Frosty and Rudolph a LONG time ago way before streaming TV was a thing, while ABC signed their deal for Freeform carriage of them just a few years ago.

 

[Mr Tony]

Still doesn’t make sense but oh well

 

[KyL416]

Here's Freeform's schedule for the Rankin/Bass specials, and their airings include segments that CBS edits out for time:

Sunday, Dec. 3
7:10pm Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
8:15pm Frosty the Snowman

Monday, Dec. 4
4:10pm Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town
5:15pm Frosty the Snowman
5:50pm Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
12:00am Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town

Wednesday, Dec. 20
8:15pm Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
9:20pm Frosty the Snowman
9:55pm Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town

Thursday, Dec. 21
3:35pm Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town
4:40pm Frosty the Snowman
5:15pm Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer

Sunday, Dec. 24
5:35pm Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
6:40pm Frosty the Snowman

Monday, Dec. 25
10:30am Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town
3:30pm Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
4:30pm Frosty the Snowman
5:00pm Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town

 

[Bruce]

I just looked, Rudolph, Santa and Frosty is available in 4K/DV on Vudu for sale, extremely curious how well they look.

 

[CSM]

I guess that is one bad thing about streaming you might miss shows, if they don't have the streaming rights.

 

[KyL416]

It's a lot better now than it was in the early days of authenticated streaming. Like when WatchESPN and WatchABC first launched ESPN had to blackout all MLB telecasts and blur the screen anytime MLB highlights appeared on SportsCenter while the ABC O&O streams had to replace the sports segments during their newscasts with a scoreboard and blackout any shows distributed by Warner Bros.

CBS likely got a sweet long term deal with Classic Media for their twice a year airings of Rudolph and Frosty as they are still using the same 2005 edits. Since then the pre-1974 Rankin/Bass library has changed hands multiple times via Classic Media, Dreamworks Animation and eventually NBCU who likely want CBS to pay significantly more if they want to upgrade that early 2000s deal to include streaming rights.

 

[KyL416]

An update: Freeform is also blacking out Rudolph and Frosty on their streams. However instead of a slate, their stream is showing various things like Eloise at Christmastime and Prancer Returns as filler.

 

[Willh699]

An update: Freeform is also blacking out Rudolph and Frosty on their streams. However instead of a slate, their stream is showing various things like Eloise at Christmastime and Prancer Returns as filler.

sounds like no one has streaming rights cause the rights holders refuse to make a steaming deal for this program.

 

[Joe The Dragon]

All CBS stations it's blacked out on, the network doesn't have the streaming rights.

Broadcasters Push FCC to Reconsider Rules for vMVPDs - NRB

Network affiliates are pushing the FCC to adopt rules treating on-demand streaming platforms under the same standards as traditional cable and satellite providers

nrb.org

Now if they get the same rules as sat and cable will blocks like this go away?

 

[harshness]

Now if they get the same rules as sat and cable will blocks like this go away?

It is less about the rules and more about what the stations negotiate for with their respective networks. If those negotiations don't contemplate streaming rights, they can't extend the streaming rights to the streaming service.

I expect that the stations aren't all that interested in getting streaming rights given how much effort the networks themselves are putting into providing DTC streaming.

 

[KyL416]

Having the streaming rights is a seperate thing between the networks/stations and the rights holders along with the contracts between the studios and the cast and crew, or their estates for older content.