Changing what TV the receiver is on.

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Hello. I would like to know what needs to be done to change which TV the receiver is on. I have it in the master bedroom right now but I want to move it to the front room. It doesn't work if I simply move it down stairs so I am guessing I need to change the cables some how. Can someone help me with what needs to be done?

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Hello. I would like to know what needs to be done to change which TV the receiver is on. I have it in the master bedroom right now but I want to move it to the front room. It doesn't work if I simply move it down stairs so I am guessing I need to change the cables some how. Can someone help me with what needs to be done?

Thanks.
Essentially, you need to move everything that goes to the bedroom to the front room and visa-versa. Could be simple, could be difficult.

We need more information to help. What kind of receiver? How is the "front room" cabled to that receiver?

The location where the receiver is will have a cable going to the satellite dish but depending on the type of receiver, there may be additional components between the two.

How the front room receives a signal also has many, many options. For example, it could be SD on a TV channel back-fed on the cable going to the satellite receiver, then split off somewhere to end up at the front room TV. Or if the receiver is a Hopper, there will be a "node" or "hub" that splits the signal off to feed the front room.
 
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I have a Hopper 722k IIRC. I am not sure how it is cabled but there is only 1 coax cable going into the Hopper. In the outside box there is one wire going into a splitter and one wire going out of it.
 
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I have a Hopper 722k IIRC. I am not sure how it is cabled but there is only 1 coax cable going into the Hopper. In the outside box there is one wire going into a splitter and one wire going out of it.
It's either a 722K OR a Hopper (two different animals).
 
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It's either a 722K OR a Hopper (two different animals).
Read what it says on the components, more than likely it isn't a splitter. Probably a diplexer if a 722K or a node if it is a Hopper. Hopper vs. 722K uses different frequencies.
 
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It could be as simple as swapping two coax. But do you have two receivers or one? If just one, and you're wired in the cable TV fashion, you might be ahead to have someone do it for you.

Love your comment. Brings to mind the model T Impala!

We can help!
 
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Look at the front of the Hopper, does it say "Hopper 3 with Sling and look like this?"

Dishhopper3


Do you have any other receivers, like a Joey?
 
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Sorry then. it is a Hopper for sure.
You'll then have a Joey at the second TV location.

The "splitter" outside is either a node (for original Hopper or Hopper with Sling) or hub (for Hopper 3) and should have three or four coax cables: one or two from the dish, one to the Hopper and one to the Joey. Turn off all components and swap the output connections on the node/hub, then sway the Hoper and Joey inside the house. You should be good to go at this point.
 
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I have a Hopper with Sling. Not Hopper 3.

The node is in the box outside on side of house? I have 1 orange cable going into the IN and one black going from the first OUT on the left. I have 2 joeys. I assumed just swapping the outputs was all that was required but when I only seen one output I was stumped.

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I have a Hopper with Sling. Not Hopper 3.

The node is in the box outside on side of house? I have 1 orange cable going into the IN and one black going from the first OUT on the left. I have 2 joeys.
It's actually called a "hub". There are 4 ports on the hub: TO ODU comes from the dish, TO HOST goes to Hopper 3, and the two TO CLIENT ports go to wired Joeys.

It may help to study the wiring diagrams here although the wireless Joey isn't mentioned:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/threads/hybrid-lnb-wiring-diagrams.357083/#post-3815139

For wireless Joeys, you'll find a Dish access point connected to the Hopper's ethernet port. In this scenario, you may not have a coax run to your front room. In that case, you would need to run one or reroute the coax currently connected to the Hopper in your bedroom.

As navychop suggested, you might contact Dish or a local installer to do the work for you. Dish will charge about $100 if you don't have the protection plan or around $15 if you do.
 
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Yea I just went outside and took the box off the wall. There is a SOLO NODE as you described. The wire are color coded. Blue for the Hopper and a splitter off the node with Black and Red. I can just swap the blue and either the black or red right?
 
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Yea I just went outside and took the box off the wall. There is a SOLO NODE as you described. The wire are color coded. Blue for the Hopper and a splitter off the node with Black and Red. I can just swap the blue and either the black or red right?
If it's a node, then you have a Hopper or Hopper with Sling, not a Hopper 3. Wiring of the Hopper 3 is completely different.

Color-coding won't help. These were probably done by the installer to help identify which cables go where.

If as you say, you have a SOLO NODE, you will have two coax cables coming from the dish and connected to the TO DPP PLUS... connectors. The Hopper will be connected to the TO HOST port. Your two Joeys will be connected to the output of the splitter connected to the TO CLIENT port on the node.

You will need to identify the coax that is connected to the Joey in the front room where you will be relocating the Hopper. I suspect you'll find color codes consistent with those you found in the box outside. If not, you will need to pull one of the cables off the splitter and see which Joey lost it's signal.

Unplug and disconnect the Hopper from the coax in the bedroom. Move it to the front room but don't connect it yet.

Unplug and disconnect the Joey in the front room's coax. Move it to the bedroom but don't connect it yet.

Go to the box outside and swap the coax connected to the TO HOST port on the node with the cable you identified above.

Connect the Hopper to the coax cable in the front room and the TV. Plug in the Hopper and allow it to boot. You should now see a picture.

Connect the Joey in your bedroom to the coax there and to the TV there. Plugin the Joey and allow it to boot. You should now see picture there also.

Finally, go to your other Joey location and verify you have picture there too.
 
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The picture you showed earlier is for cable TV or internet service, yes ? Dish doesn't (typically) use orange cabling (underground rated).

To swap things around, the blue cable going to your bedroom (where the Hopper WAS) needs swapped with either the black or red as you say. Label them after you're done. Even masking tape and a Sharpie marker will be good enough.
 
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The picture earlier was indeed internet. I got it to work based on Kwindrem's help. I couldn't for a while based on the color bands on the coax cables. I was sticking with them colors I saw but it wouldn't work. So I went opposite and it did. Peach outside to Red inside...

Thanks everyone.
 
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