Not as long as the 24 months most Directv subs waited for ANY new hd channels at all.
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Not as long as the 24 months most Directv subs waited for ANY new hd channels at all.
If the launch problems had not have happened, Dish would be starting the movement of the HD people to the new satellites, and would be able to keep up with DIRECTV. Unless you have a magic way to get a satellite into orbit, there is nothing Dish can do except tough it out and wait for a launch.
It looks like they are working hard to compensate some by getting 61.5 ready to do HD LiL on spot beam. They can pretty much add a lot of markets in the east, and central parts of the country. Yes it will be a 2 dish solution. It is not like Dish has a lot of choice. If they got deparate they could add some markets on 148 in the west to try to hold out. With the fantastic drop in prices of HDTVs people are starting to look for HD when buying service. They need these markets. Adding another 30 local markets would help.
It looks like they are working hard to compensate some by getting 61.5 ready to do HD LiL on spot beam. They can pretty much add a lot of markets in the east, and central parts of the country. Yes it will be a 2 dish solution. It is not like Dish has a lot of choice. If they got deparate they could add some markets on 148 in the west to try to hold out. With the fantastic drop in prices of HDTVs people are starting to look for HD when buying service. They need these markets. Adding another 30 local markets would help.
They replace E8 which is being under used right now with E11. E8 has spots that are turned off since E10 replaced it. They could then move E8 to a new slot like 86 which they have a license to transmit from right now and start service. The way they made their filings to split the company up into 2 units, it looks like 61.5, 77 and 86 would be one service. One Dish (but not 18") could do all 3, would be Dish 1000 in size.
Well if Chuck did not give his techs. 5 to 6 jobs a day and expect them to get them all done when they have to drive over 300 miles, Maybe they would keep more customer besides pissing more customers off because they the techs. can't make appointment on time or at all. All you get from this is pissed off installers = pissed of customers= no customers! Chuck quit trying to push quantity over quality then you might save your company if you still care. 
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OK, that's for the "new" MPEG4 service, what about expanded capacity for the existing system?
I think I signed up under that promo, if it was the same one you had to buy the equipment and got a rebate each month for a year. It was a sweet deal, I'm surprised that many walked from it.
D* is killing us right now. We are slowing down on new connects and the HD stuff has dried up as well. Get this. The local D* HSP has contacted our office to seek help with their workload. That's how busy D* is. Big but coming....But D*'s pay rates are about 1/2 of what we get . For example I spoke to a supervisor from that HSP and he gave me the low down on what their techs get vs what we get for what is essentially less work.
If asked to do D* at their pay rates, I will decline.
you are correct E* needs to increase payments. We have been earning the same rate for at least the 4 years I have been installing/servicing Dish. Also with the D-1000 plus upgrades ,we get screwed on the pay. These upgrades are essentially new installs. They are not worth it. I try to do them though. About 90% of mine get done. But I know of techs that will NLOS them if the job is too involved. 4 hrs for 60 bucks doesn't butter the biscuit. But I like having one of the highest completion rates in the company ,so many times I bite the bullet and do them. I hate it, but it looks good to the upper echelons.
Upgrades..One of the biggest complaints form customers is they despise how new custs get all the goodies yet Dish wants to charge upgrade customers out the wazoo. However I do get churn new connnects from D* custs that were frustrated over having to purchase EQ that new D* custs get essentially free of charge. In either case this is bad business. Both E* and D* focus too much on signing up new customers. Existing custs sometimes feel left out.
If E* would wake up and dump that stupid phone line fee they would look like Super Bowl Champs. At least they could drp the fee to non land line customers who can somehow prove they do not have a land line in their home. I run into lots of cell phone only people who get real pissed off about having to pay a fee for something that is not their fault. My observation is, who the hell is Dish to tell me I have to pay more just because I don't use a land line in my home.
Investing 35 hours a week isn't heavily investing... If he is vested in DISH, it definately isn't in anything involving the employees and I doubt the retailers.
The pay varies by market. The starting rate for all techs regardless of experience is $11.75 /hr in the Charlotte,NC area. FSM's start at just $30k/year. That's peanuts. I interviewed with DNS for an FSM position, I turned it down after the money /hrs were announced. No thank you. 60-70 hrs per week for $600 a week. F U....I did the math... BTW I was making more than that avergaing about 30-35 hrs of work time per week. To be fair add about 10-12 hrs for driving time...no way was I going to put up with all that coroporate BS and with management crawling up my ass about why the wastebaskets in the office didn't get emptied. Yes ,it's true. A friend of mine was an FSM and got called on the carpet because he didn't empty the friggin waste baskets in the office. F U...I would have termnated my employement right there and told the guy to go fornicate himself. He left two weeks later. He now flips the bird (figuratively) at the DNS office while he passes by on his way to his job at AT&T...
The discussion pertained to investing capital into his company. He has a huge sum invested in Echo. That's a fact.
I speak from the perspective of a current Dish Network and Comcast subscriber. Dish does not carry my local high definition channels, so the cable company is the only way (with my geography) to get the networks in high definition. I have been speaking with the customer service representatives from Dish on and off for the last year regarding local HD. Every time, I'm told that they will be adding, but they never do. The information on this thread regarding satellite launches is discouraging. It has help me make my decision to leave (contract was up in September).
I have watched DirecTV overtake EchoStar. I have wanted to stay, but Charlie's refusal to carry the Yes Network, the failure to add significant HD channels (sorry, VOOM doesn't cut it) and having to keep the cable company means I'm going to DirecTV. The final straw for me was when EchoStar added The Science Channel, National Geographic and Animal Planet in high definition, but I didn't get them. Apparently the high definition package that I pay for it doesn't include all cable high definition channels. I understand the premium channels, but not these.
As an aside, I get ESPN, TNT, TBS, UHD and Discovery Home Theater from both providers. The quality difference is startling. Comcast quality is much better than Dish. I recently had a Dish technician overs for some repairs. He started repeating the mantra about how satellite is better. I showed him the channels. It apparently was the first time he had seen them. Enough said.
As I said, I wish I didn't have to leave. I love the two tuner 622, and I've always found the customer service to be good. But HD is king, and right now and for the foreseeable future, DirecTV is the leader, by a lot.
I have watched DirecTV overtake EchoStar. I have wanted to stay, but Charlie's refusal to carry the Yes Network, the failure to add significant HD channels (sorry, VOOM doesn't cut it) and having to keep the cable company means I'm going to DirecTV. The final straw for me was when EchoStar added The Science Channel, National Geographic and Animal Planet in high definition, but I didn't get them. Apparently the high definition package that I pay for it doesn't include all cable high definition channels. I understand the premium channels, but not these.
As an aside, I get ESPN, TNT, TBS, UHD and Discovery Home Theater from both providers. The quality difference is startling. Comcast quality is much better than Dish. I recently had a Dish technician overs for some repairs. He started repeating the mantra about how satellite is better. I showed him the channels. It apparently was the first time he had seen them. Enough said.
As I said, I wish I didn't have to leave. I love the two tuner 622, and I've always found the customer service to be good. But HD is king, and right now and for the foreseeable future, DirecTV is the leader, by a lot.
How about "moving"? I did that and now get the networks in HD from E* as well as my locals via OTA. I know you said you have geography problems but this would get you the networks, just not the locals.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-hd-discussions/113397-help-moving.html
Maybe in your neck of the woods but having just changed from Comcast cable to Dish, I can't believe how much better the Dish is. I haven't had the need to contact Dish's customer service yet but it cannot possibly be any worse then Comcast. That's the main reason I got out of it. I could tell you some nightmare stories about Comcast service but it would take to long.
No, what's fact is HIS huge some was divested from Echo... His money came out of the company. Don't confuse growth of the company with him putting money back in. Two seperate financial flows. Echo grows on its own due to the nature of the business. Putting in 1M ten years ago which has rolled into a 26.7B net worth isn't investing back in. It's Ceasar's Palace. The house always wins.
