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mike123abc

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I wonder how expensive a ATSC/QAM modulator would be to incorporate, or if there is even such a thing? I'm sure we'd never see it anyway with the eggs already in the Hopper basket. Probably would have HDCP issues as well.

If you can get 2 runs of cat 5/6 between the two room, you can do HDMI to cat5 and back to mirror the picture.
 
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brg606

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Instead of a 211 you could add a VIP612 $10/mo. increase instead of $7 but less than the $12 of Hopper. VIP612 has dual tuners and built in hard drive and can share external hard drive with 722.
question about the vip612. if I bought it myself (around $120 on ebay) could I avoid the $10 per month fee? is it hard to setup yourself? I see the vip612 has a 320gb hard drive. so I could record on it and it could be shared on either tv? could I watch shows already on my vip722 in hd in my bedroom (tv2)? thanks
 
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TheKrell

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You can move programs from a 722 to a 612 (or vice versa) via external drive.
 

ChadT41

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The only way to have the true whole home hd DVr is with the hopper. Supply and demand. You want/need it, so it will cost a little extra. You are getting good suggestions but from the sounds of it, you just want the whole home hd DVr features without the price. No real way around it. To share recordings, needs the moca, or the duo sd.
 

brg606

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one more quick questions for the experts. recently, I had my dsl modem moved to the outlet that had the dish network telephone line plugged in. I remember if you didn't have it plugged in to the telephone cord they'd charge you $5 extra per month. the dsl installer said don't worry they don't do that anymore. is this true?
 

navigates

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You can surely do HD over COAX. The only down side of doing it is that it takes over your coax in your home. Therefore if you are using the coax line to feed your receiver this solution would not work. I’ve done an HDMI to COAX setup. There are two sets, and they connect to the coax.You will also need an hdmi splitter. However this is costly. About 200. And the downside is that all tv;s will watch tv 1 only and not independent. Hopper and Joey is cheaper IMO
 

harshness

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I wonder how expensive a ATSC/QAM modulator would be to incorporate, or if there is even such a thing?
There is such a thing and they sell for somewhere in the neighborhood $800 on up.

The show stopper with this idea is that it can only deliver HD if it is modulating TV1.
 

navigates

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There is such a thing and they sell for somewhere in the neighborhood $800 on up.

The show stopper with this idea is that it can only deliver HD if it is modulating TV1.

Its about 189 usd: Search for the term below on ebay. That's that I use. It also transmits IR if required. However the dish receivers are RF so that is not needed. Another thing to remember is that it takes over your RF. So if you have anything else running on that line, you may have to smartly isolate it. You can also buy an additional receiver and daisy chain, so TV1 goes to RF TV2 and RF TV3 all in hdmi, replicating just the TV1 of the receiver and thus leaving the TV2 useless.

Coax Cable Extender Balun Sender Receiver HDTV

I would have liked if this setup would not take over the coax, in that case I could send out TV2 as well in the same line and use tv2 incase tv1 is in use. hope this helps.

Besides needing the obvious HDMI cables terminating each points to the TV, you will also need.
F Type Female to BNC Male Connector Coupler Coax Cable Adapter CCTV
 

harshness

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navigates

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I was speaking of an ATSC modulator, not a balun pair. You can get HDMI balun pairs that use two CAT6 cables for under $40 from monoprice.com that will carry IR.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042501&p_id=8008&seq=1&format=2

Again, the issue is that using this kind of stuff doesn't allow for independent viewing on the second TV.

How would ATSC modulator upconvert a native 480p signal to 1080. even if it does, it will be an upscale and not native. Ethernet is cheaper for sure but some homes are not wired for ethernet internally for which you have to go the coax route. I live in an apartment now and jack behind the tv didn't have and ethernet drop. Just the coax. These things should become wireless. its about time.
 

harshness

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How would ATSC modulator upconvert a native 480p signal to 1080.
It cannot and that's precisely the point I was trying to make about all of the suggestions thus far.

The closest you can get to two independent HD viewings on a ViP722 is to have a Sling adapter and something to receive it at the TV end. That something might be a computer or a smart phone plus a Roku.
 

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