Dish Joey in a metal outbuilding. Which antenna port

[Vender]

Dish Joey in a metal outbuilding. Which antenna port. I have an external antenna and just wondering which of the three antenna ports in the Joey should I hook to?

 

[TheKrell]

Dish Joey in a metal outbuilding. Which antenna port. I have an external antenna and just wondering which of the three antenna ports in the Joey should I hook to?

What external antenna? The coax input on a Joey is for MoCA. It has no OTA nor satellite tuner. Forgive me if I've misinterpreted the question.

 

[Vender]

What external antenna? The coax input on a Joey is for MoCA. It has no OTA nor satellite tuner. Forgive me if I've misinterpreted the question.

Inside the Joey.

 

[Vender]

What external antenna? The coax input on a Joey is for MoCA. It has no OTA nor satellite tuner. Forgive me if I've misinterpreted the question.

The WAP sits in the house. I have a Joey about 70’ away but it is in my metal barn. I am trying to get the Joey to see the WAP in the house. So I was just going to plug in an external antenna at the barn

 

[TheKrell]

The WAP sits in the house. I have a Joey about 70’ away but it is in my metal barn. I am trying to get the Joey to see the WAP in the house. So I was just going to plug in an external antenna at the barn

OK, now I understand. Yes, I think you need to extend that internal antenna to the outside of your metal outbuilding. I have no idea which lead that might be inside the Joey. Where do those leads go?

 

[Vender]

OK, now I understand. Yes, I think you need to extend that internal antenna to the outside of your metal outbuilding. I have no idea which lead that might be inside the Joey. Where do those leads go?

They go to three small internal antennas in the Joey.

 

[TheKrell]

Well, let's see. I'll bet one is a ZigBee antenna for the remote, while the other is for your WAP. I have no idea what the 3rd internal antenna is for. Since ZigBee uses 2.4GHz, while the WAP IIRC uses 5GHz, I would guess that you want the lead going to the smaller antenna.

 

[Vender]

Well, let's see. I'll bet one is a ZigBee antenna for the remote, while the other is for your WAP. I have no idea what the 3rd internal antenna is for. Since ZigBee uses 2.4GHz, while the WAP IIRC uses 5GHz, I would guess that you want the lead going to the smaller antenna.

The antennas inside the Joey are all identical

 

[Vender]

The antennas inside the Joey are all identical

I’m wondering if it would just be easier to buy a Wally and plug that into the dish? Those Wally boxes you see on Amazon does dish charge you to use one?

 

[TheKrell]

I’m wondering if it would just be easier to buy a Wally and plug that into the dish? Those Wally boxes you see on Amazon does dish charge you to use one?

I see 2 problems with that idea.

1. 70' to the house and probably the dish as well.
2. If you have an H3, then you can't plug a wally into the 2nd port of a DPH LNB. You would have to get a DPH42.
3. You have to pay an extra fee for a Wally, regardless of how it's hooked up.

 

[Vender]

I see 2 problems with that idea.

1. 70' to the house and probably the dish as well.
2. If you have an H3, then you can't plug a wally into the 2nd port of a DPH LNB. You would have to get a DPH42.
3. You have to pay an extra fee for a Wally, regardless of how it's hooked up.

Holy crap!!! It’s J1!!!!! Got it thanks all.

 

[ethanlerma]

Well, let's see. I'll bet one is a ZigBee antenna for the remote, while the other is for your WAP. I have no idea what the 3rd internal antenna is for. Since ZigBee uses 2.4GHz, while the WAP IIRC uses 5GHz, I would guess that you want the lead going to the smaller antenna.

All three of those connectors are 5GHz WiFi, since the Joey does 3x3. The ZigBee circuitry is integrated into the motherboard (If you look at the picture, you can see it to the right of the J3 port, the RF shielding is the chip while the little hook looking thing printed on the board is the antenna).

Holy crap!!! It’s J1!!!!! Got it thanks all.

To be precise, J1 is your primary. The WiFi5 standard allows up to 433Mbit per "link" by default, with bandwidth decreasing given distance/interference. The wireless Joey has a 3x3 antenna setup, meaning 3 "links" or up to 1300Mbit. 433Mbit is more then enough for a Joey to work, but you may not be receiving that at that distance and unfortunately there is no way to check bandwidth like on wired Joey's. Try it out with only that port attached, if it works fine then you are good. But if you get sluggishness or weird behavior while having an adequate signal strength then that means you are not receiving the full 433Mbit and you will need to hook something on to J2 as well, to compensate for the lack of bandwidth.

 

[Vender]

All three of those connectors are 5GHz WiFi, since the Joey does 3x3. The ZigBee circuitry is integrated into the motherboard (If you look at the picture, you can see it to the right of the J3 port, the RF shielding is the chip while the little hook looking thing printed on the board is the antenna).


To be precise, J1 is your primary. The WiFi5 standard allows up to 433Mbit per "link" by default, with bandwidth decreasing given distance/interference. The wireless Joey has a 3x3 antenna setup, meaning 3 "links" or up to 1300Mbit. 433Mbit is more then enough for a Joey to work, but you may not be receiving that at that distance and unfortunately there is no way to check bandwidth like on wired Joey's. Try it out with only that port attached, if it works fine then you are good. But if you get sluggishness or weird behavior while having an adequate signal strength then that means you are not receiving the full 433Mbit and you will need to hook something on to J2 as well, to compensate for the lack of bandwidth.

It is working great on J1. On the others I did not receive a signal. I am not going to mess with it as it is working and I fear if I touch it

 

[ethanlerma]

It is working great on J1. On the others I did not receive a signal. I am not going to mess with it as it is working and I fear if I touch it

J2/3 won’t work without their primary. And yes, don’t fix it if it isn’t broken.

 

[HipKat]

All three of those connectors are 5GHz WiFi, since the Joey does 3x3. The ZigBee circuitry is integrated into the motherboard (If you look at the picture, you can see it to the right of the J3 port, the RF shielding is the chip while the little hook looking thing printed on the board is the antenna).


To be precise, J1 is your primary. The WiFi5 standard allows up to 433Mbit per "link" by default, with bandwidth decreasing given distance/interference. The wireless Joey has a 3x3 antenna setup, meaning 3 "links" or up to 1300Mbit. 433Mbit is more then enough for a Joey to work, but you may not be receiving that at that distance and unfortunately there is no way to check bandwidth like on wired Joey's. Try it out with only that port attached, if it works fine then you are good. But if you get sluggishness or weird behavior while having an adequate signal strength then that means you are not receiving the full 433Mbit and you will need to hook something on to J2 as well, to compensate for the lack of bandwidth.

Your knowledge of these technical specs is awesome!

 

[ethanlerma]

Your knowledge of these technical specs is awesome!

Benefits of majoring in computer networking. And I mean, it’s not really that hard to figure out, if you look at the OP’s picture you can se a bog standard Broadcom WiFi chipset, it’s not like Dish is making their own in house WiFi solution.

 

[TheKrell]

if you look at the OP’s picture you can se a bog standard Broadcom WiFi chipset

You taught me a new term today.

By the way, if all 3 are 5GHz, then why is one cable fatter and pinkish while the other two are thinner and grey? Are they all single-conductor, or are those tiny coax cables we're looking at?

 

[ethanlerma]

By the way, if all 3 are 5GHz, then why is one cable fatter and pinkish while the other two are thinner and grey?

My guess is that was the OP's initial attempt with his own antenna, I just popped open my wireless Joey and all three cables are those little gray ones.

Are they all single-conductor, or are those tiny coax cables we're looking at?

Tiny coax would be the correct term, since they have an outer shielding that makes contact with the antennas. All WiFi antennas do this as far as I know.

 

[Billaban]

I know this thread is old but I'm interested in knowing what antenna was used to extend the Joey range?

Thanks.