Does dish have answer to uverse total home dvr

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All the cable companies are working on their version of whole house DVR. Does Disk have something like that in the near future? The Vip622/722 is not quite the same. It only has one HD tuner. If you're recording an HD channel, you can't watch another HD channel. Or, you can't record 2 HD channel at the same time. Since you can't really buy a new SD tv anymore and people start having multiple HD tv's in the house and that isn't a solution. SD channel look terrible on HD tv's.
 

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622/722 have two HD SAT tuners, and one HD OTA tuner. The 722k has two HD SAT tuners, and a buy separately module that gives you two HD OTA tuners. However the receivers will only output to one HD TV.
 

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All the cable companies are working on their version of whole house DVR. Does Disk have something like that in the near future? The Vip622/722 is not quite the same. It only has one HD tuner.
No, it has two HD Sat tuners and one OTA HD tuner.
If you're recording an HD channel, you can't watch another HD channel.
Yes, you can in Single mode or if you set recording preference to TV2.
Or, you can't record 2 HD channel at the same time.
Nope. Two Sats and one OTA at the same time.
 

toiday

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Thanks for correcting me with the number of HD tuners. However, it still doesn't have HD for TV2 and nothing close to uverse DVR. Does the upcoming Vip922 give HD to TV2?
 

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You'd think a software update would allow for watching programs off other dvrs in the house over your local network. The bandwidth is definately there.
 

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You'd think a software update would allow for watching programs off other dvrs in the house over your local network. The bandwidth is definately there.

So it would seem, but as has been pointed out in other threads, the Dish receivers only have hard-wired Ethernet (no wireless). The large majority of Dish subscribers do not have hard-wired Ethernet networks in their homes. The fact that Dish had to revert to pushing remote DVR programming down via the sat link rather than Ethernet would seem to indicate that most DVR subs don't have hardwired connections (or don't know how to use them).

Sure, Dish could require the technicians to service the Ethernet connections for an additional fee but it would likely overburden the support network.

The reason this doesn't yet exist probably has more to do with customer ignorance/customer service than technological capabilities.
 

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Say what

The fact that Dish had to revert to pushing remote DVR programming down via the sat link rather than Ethernet would seem to indicate that most DVR subs don't have hardwired connections (or don't know how to use them).

If this were true then one couldn't add or remove a record at anytime of the day. It would only happen when the over night update took place. I can use remote access and add or delete events and it takes place almost instantly. It going via i-net.
 

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If this were true then one couldn't add or remove a record at anytime of the day. It would only happen when the over night update took place. I can use remote access and add or delete events and it takes place almost instantly. It going via i-net.

I didn't mean to suggest that Remote Access didn't use an Internet connection at all - only that a few months after releasing the Internet-only Remote Access service, they came out with a slimmed down version that didn't require the device to be connected to the Internet.

True, to get full advantage of Remote DVR Access you absolutely still need to have your receiver connected to a broadband Internet connection however a minimal version is now provided that allows limited Remote Access features WITHOUT a connection.

DISH Remote Access- DISH Network

I am only speculating that this was, in part, a means to address the the vast number of subscribers that don't have their receiver connected to a hard-wired internet connection.
 

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Doesn't say

I didn't mean to suggest that Remote Access didn't use an Internet connection at all - only that a few months after releasing the Internet-only Remote Access service, they came out with a slimmed down version that didn't require the device to be connected to the Internet.

True, to get full advantage of Remote DVR Access you absolutely still need to have your receiver connected to a broadband Internet connection however a minimal version is now provided that allows limited Remote Access features WITHOUT a connection.

DISH Remote Access- DISH Network

I am only speculating that this was, in part, a means to address the the vast number of subscribers that don't have their receiver connected to a hard-wired internet connection.

Read thru the R-access & it just doesn't say how it gets there. Seems near useless w/o either I-net or a phone line hooked up since it wouldn't take effect until middle of the night.
 

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Read thru the R-access & it just doesn't say how it gets there. Seems near useless w/o either I-net or a phone line hooked up since it wouldn't take effect until middle of the night.

No, but for the past month or so Dish has been running announcements like this...

"DISH Remote Access has new expanded availability -- no internet connection is required for your receiver. CLICK HERE to access."

Based on the features that presumably don't need an Internet connection, it looks like it is a push only, suggesting the changes are pushed through the satellite downlink the same way that Dish turns on/off channels pretty much on-demand.

But we digress from the OP - sorry to hijack the thread.
 

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Read thru the R-access & it just doesn't say how it gets there. Seems near useless w/o either I-net or a phone line hooked up since it wouldn't take effect until middle of the night.

Except that the remote recording sends a signal via satellite (for non-internet connected receivers) every 30 minutes, it has nothing to do with the time of day or night your updates are set for.
 

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Answer for remote access

Except that the remote recording sends a signal via satellite (for non-internet connected receivers) every 30 minutes, it has nothing to do with the time of day or night your updates are set for.

Now we have an answer. So this thread can go back to the uverse question.
 

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Verizon can also do this with FiOS TV, as can Moxi. Supposedly Dish had been developing a whole house solution about 5 years ago but abandoned it. The 922 should be able to handle distributed video within the home using Sling technology, perhaps using Slingcatchers on a home network to view content stored on the 922. I also recall reading in a thread here somewhere that the 622 and 722 will eventually be able to share recordings across a wired home network with other 622/722 models, kind of like the way they do the external hard drive feature now. It sounds kind of clunky to me. The external hard drive feature works pretty well, but can be slow even with the hard drive attached directly to the unit.
 

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I had both Dish HD and U-Verse HD service in my house for 1.5 months starting in October. I had the latest DVR that U-Verse had and it could not come close to my 4-year-old 622.

If the OP had been correct that the 622 was limited to 1 HD stream that U-Verse would have won...but it is clear that the OP does not understand a lot about Dish DVRs. My 3 HD streams are more than enough for me. The external hard drive is essential for my family too.

I kept the U-Verse internet service--it is far better than my old cable modem service. But we returned the U-Verse DVR and stopped our U-Verse TV service.
 

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I thought dish allready had this, they have been advertising that you can pause in one room and pick it up in another. I was assuming that this was on any tv.

That's true if you are moving from one room to another, where the other TV is connected to the TV2 output, which is SD. I think the point here is to get the video to the second TV in HD. That is currently not an option.
 

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That's true if you are moving from one room to another, where the other TV is connected to the TV2 output, which is SD.
You are right of course, but the quoted marketing is still valid whether or not we're talking about a Duo DVR or Solo DVR, and whether or not it's HD or SD. Most all Dish receivers I've seen (exluding the 111) have a profusion of outputs which can be cabled up to extra TVs. You just pause at one TV and play again at another. One DVR. No MRV, darn it.
 

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That's true if you are moving from one room to another, where the other TV is connected to the TV2 output, which is SD. I think the point here is to get the video to the second TV in HD. That is currently not an option.

That sucks because the installer is usually going to determin where tv 2 is going and it would be nice if you could do it on any tv though a wired network. I know people who would want this feature would wire for it or do a wireless bridge. Chances are they probably already are doing it for dish online. Heck, dish could even easily do this through home plug and power lines.

The downside of uverse total home dvr is you could only do that on recorded programs. You couldn't pause a live tv program and pick it up in another room like uverse makes it out to be. If dish could accomplish this through home plug they would be all set.
 

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I also had Uverse for one month and kept my Dish system during this time. After making a careful A-B comparison Uverse just did not match up. My kids had a fit once they realized they could not pause live TV and on some nights (because of overlap) we are actually recording up to 5 sometimes 6 events on two 622's. Uverse could not come close to that. The way they currently use the "Whole House DVR" is of no use to me. The small size of the hard drive and no ability to connect an external made it an easy decision for me.

I did keep the internet though 10mb down 1.5 up. It consistently stays at these levels or even higher then 10mb on occasion.
 

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