EchoStar Announces Spectrum Sale and Commercial Agreement with SpaceX

[John2021]

The 4K Joey (not to be confused with the Joey 4) was released long before there was any HDR standards. It could just do raw 4K.

i don't know why but i was thinking of the joey 2. the joey 2 is the one i can't stand it's butt ugly!!! the joey 4 looks clean and smooth unlike they joey 2

 

[Bruce]

No TV had it till 2016 models and only a few at that.

Nope, the first TVs with Dolby Vision was announced in early 2015, released that same year, the same year the Joey was released-

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Two new Vizio TVs are set to be the first to market featuring Dolby's new television technology, Dolby Vision.

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[Scott Greczkowski]

Actually not, the 4K Joey was released in 2015, HDR10 standards were the same year, Dolby Vision was in 2014, a year before the 4K Joey was released.

But it was designed and the chipset was made before those standards were made.

 

[Juan]

i never liked 3D!!! I hated those stupid glasses you had to wear!!!! . Now that VR is coming out hopefully t.v. viewing will be better than it was

If you ever visit the sphere in vegas...you will experience what seems to no glasses 3d experience

 

[navychop]

I just need to do a torcher test

Post the video. They get so pretty when they go up!

 

[John2021]

Post the video. They get so pretty when they go up!

post video of what the genies having brain farts trying to delete large files . or me taking it out in the back and using it for target practice...

 

[John2021]

If you ever visit the sphere in vegas...you will experience what seems to no glasses 3d experience

since were moving to henderson. that's something that we will do!!! it's amazing what type of system it takes to run it!!!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt14MwwtH8Y

 

[bookworm370]

a gen 5 NVME drive . also design it so it supports the trim functions. maybe more storage???

a gen 5 NVME drive . also design it so it supports the trim functions. maybe more storage???

Other than the Hopper doesn't support TRIM and after the cells get used the SSD goes poof!

 

[John2021]

Other than the Hopper doesn't support TRIM and after the cells get used the SSD goes poof!

that's what i am thinking the hopper or any DVR for that matter don't support the trim function. and yes the SSD would go poof!!! unless manufactures could figure out a way to have DVR'S support the trim function that would be great!!!

 

[John2021]

EchoStar to sell full portfolio of AWS-4 and H-block spectrum licenses to SpaceX.

With AWS-4 and H-block spectrum licenses, SpaceX to develop and deploy a next-generation Starlink Direct-To-Cell constellation.​

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. and HAWTHORNE, Calif., Sept. 8, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- EchoStar has entered into a definitive agreement with SpaceX to sell the company's AWS-4 and H-block spectrum licenses for approximately $17 billion, consisting of up to $8.5 billion in cash and up to $8.5 billion in SpaceX stock valued as of the entry into the definitive agreement. Additionally, the definitive agreement provides for SpaceX to fund an aggregate of approximately $2 billion of cash interest payments payable on EchoStar debt through November of 2027.


In connection with the transaction, SpaceX and EchoStar will enter into a long-term commercial agreement, which will enable EchoStar's Boost Mobile subscribers – through its cloud-native 5G core – to access SpaceX's next generation Starlink Direct to Cell service.

"For the past decade, we've acquired spectrum and facilitated worldwide 5G spectrum standards and devices, all with the foresight that direct-to-cell connectivity via satellite would change the way the world communicates," said Hamid Akhavan, president & CEO, EchoStar. "This transaction with SpaceX continues our legacy of putting the customer first as it allows for the combination of AWS-4 and H-block spectrum from EchoStar with the rocket launch and satellite capabilities from SpaceX to realize the direct-to-cell vision in a more innovative, economical and faster way for consumers worldwide."

"We're so pleased to be doing this transaction with EchoStar as it will advance our mission to end mobile dead zones around the world," said Gwynne Shotwell, president & COO, SpaceX. "SpaceX's first generation Starlink satellites with Direct to Cell capabilities have already connected millions of people when they needed it most – during natural disasters so they could contact emergency responders and loved ones – or when they would have previously been off the grid. In this next chapter, with exclusive spectrum, SpaceX will develop next generation Starlink Direct to Cell satellites, which will have a step change in performance and enable us to enhance coverage for customers wherever they are in the world."

EchoStar anticipates this transaction with SpaceX along with the previously announced spectrum sale will resolve the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) inquiries.

Closing of the proposed transaction will occur after all required regulatory approvals are received and other closing conditions are satisfied.

The proceeds of this transaction will be used for, among other things, retiring certain debt obligations and funding EchoStar's continued operations and growth initiatives. Current operations of EchoStar's DISH TV, Sling and Hughes will not be impacted by this transaction.

EchoStar was represented by White & Case LLP and Steptoe & Johnson PLLC for this transaction. SpaceX was represented by Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP and HWG LLP.

there's even rumors that elon wants to buy verizon on the internets. i call it hogwash

 

[telstar_1]

I said all along that the FCC Carr wanted DISH to divest itself of the spectrum they have been sitting on for years. They will make all these deals sail through now. Charlie recognized that he won't be able to do business with this FCC and what they ultimately wanted and he saw the writing on the wall. He spent to much time on the build out of his 5g network and didn't have a way to raise more money from investors to finish his build out, so he cashed in on that bandwidth he had accumulated for years and wasn't using and now he is out of debt.

But it wasn't supposed to work that way. The spectrum was to be utilized, not simply held as some kind of appreciating asset to eventually sell on. The only thing that makes this remotely kosher would be that echo/boost is effectively entering into a joint arrangement with musk whereby it will become a direct user of the spectrum it's transferring. Otoh there's nothing holding echo to that.

 

[John2021]

What would you add to a Hopper 4?

For me I can't think of many things the Hopper 3 is missing. If I made a Hopper 4 it would be an Android Native receiver, and would support Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos and maybe add a red recording light to it.. (lol) what else is missing?

4K joey's that can decode HDR. autohop for every channel would be awesome!!! i bet that's a contract thingy. if i remember right dish did get in trouble for the autohop feature at one time. i remember the old replay tv had something to the same effect... a usb dongle that can support astc 3.0 wich right now is a disaster.. not having to wait a day to be able to use the autohop feature

 

[BradleyD]

Don't care about spectrum stuff for multiple reasons. Even though straightforward interaction among gov't and industries is good (does not happen much and boring details not included here because this forum is about getting a view of entertainment regardless of how).

I would like a Hopper interface (the best which is very important) with multiple tuners that lets me access sats and streaming and antenna tv along with apps (some thin glike plus which I do not have) that I can use to get other stuff and DVR.

 

[Derek K]

charlies still in debt since it will take 2 years to get these deals approved. one of boosts biggest problems is there in the hood. sorry i won't go into the hood and talk to rakish behind 20 feet of glass with bars bolted on.. he could have opened stores in nice areas to...

Boost should really consider a rebranding. Change the name, open some corporate stores and start with making all the stores (Dealer and corporate) Look the same.

Both of the AT&T stores by my house are run by an independent dealer. The only way you can tell its not a corporate store is when they hand you one of their business cards. I have taken my phone, which I did not purchase from that store and they took care of me just as if they would at a corporate store.

If was a Boost customer and took my phone to Rakish, he is going to charge me to look at it.

The only way I see Boost getting any customers outside the "Hood" would be if the service is discounted to lets say $15/Mo for Dish customers. $15 cell phone plans for Dish customers may make a more stickier customer for both services, but if all you can collect is $15, and Boost can't even put these customers on their own 5G network, what good is it doing them besides look like another subscriber on the books.

AT&T tried the same thing with DIRECTV when they bought DIRECTV, the only reason why that failed was because AT&T was trying to get DIRECTV customers to pay premium prices for AT&T cellular service.

Dish can only hope those customers paying $15 for Boost, will need a larger plan, or will also bring over additional lines for their family

 

[HipKat]

Boost should really consider a rebranding. Change the name, open some corporate stores and start with making all the stores (Dealer and corporate) Look the same.

Both of the AT&T stores by my house are run by an independent dealer. The only way you can tell its not a corporate store is when they hand you one of their business cards. I have taken my phone, which I did not purchase from that store and they took care of me just as if they would at a corporate store.

If was a Boost customer and took my phone to Rakish, he is going to charge me to look at it.

The only way I see Boost getting any customers outside the "Hood" would be if the service is discounted to lets say $15/Mo for Dish customers. $15 cell phone plans for Dish customers may make a more stickier customer for both services, but if all you can collect is $15, and Boost can't even put these customers on their own 5G network, what good is it doing them besides look like another subscriber on the books.

AT&T tried the same thing with DIRECTV when they bought DIRECTV, the only reason why that failed was because AT&T was trying to get DIRECTV customers to pay premium prices for AT&T cellular service.

Dish can only hope those customers paying $15 for Boost, will need a larger plan, or will also bring over additional lines for their family

We set up phones "outside the hood" daily. The rate of new subs is accelerating, quarterly but even Dish internals agree there should have been a rebranding and not using the Boost name. I assume it was just cheaper than a completely new rollout and marketing of a new brand

 

[NYDutch]

Boost should really consider a rebranding. Change the name, open some corporate stores and start with making all the stores (Dealer and corporate) Look the same.

Both of the AT&T stores by my house are run by an independent dealer. The only way you can tell its not a corporate store is when they hand you one of their business cards. I have taken my phone, which I did not purchase from that store and they took care of me just as if they would at a corporate store.

If was a Boost customer and took my phone to Rakish, he is going to charge me to look at it.

The only way I see Boost getting any customers outside the "Hood" would be if the service is discounted to lets say $15/Mo for Dish customers. $15 cell phone plans for Dish customers may make a more stickier customer for both services, but if all you can collect is $15, and Boost can't even put these customers on their own 5G network, what good is it doing them besides look like another subscriber on the books.

AT&T tried the same thing with DIRECTV when they bought DIRECTV, the only reason why that failed was because AT&T was trying to get DIRECTV customers to pay premium prices for AT&T cellular service.

Dish can only hope those customers paying $15 for Boost, will need a larger plan, or will also bring over additional lines for their family

You seem be assuming that the only way to subscribe to Boost is in person at a Boost store. Boost is also available at Walmart and Target stores, and they do have an online presence that's currently offering a $10/mo deal for the first two months and $25 after that for unlimited everything.

 

[John2021]

As always... give them a day or two for them to fully get working properly. I love my Joey 4's.

can also think of one more thing. from what i can gather is that it takes days to transfer recordings from one hopper to another after watching a video. a faster transfer would be nice since all your really doing is cloning the drive

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Yes... that is normal unfortunately.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4494824-echostar-to-have-over-24b-cash-on-its-balance-sheet-after-recent-spectrum-sales

 

[John2021]

wonders how much longer before charlie buys dtv if he does ?? i say let em go broke and buy everything for pennies on the dollar!!! there's been rumors flying around after the sale of spectrum there could be another merger... There's no way in hell ide want dtv to buy dish . ide def bounce!!!