Echostar prepares potential bankruptcy filing

[dishdude]

Just in case, I'll have this ready for you. You want Tabasco with that?

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My money is on you having that delicious meal.

 

[Bruce]

Can't have subscribers without working satellites, they're betting on rural and traditional subscribers that don't want to or can't stream, along with DirecTV going all streaming.

I look at that this way for rural subscribers.

Have Dish/DirecTV at the average price of $120-130 a month.

Then, have an icky DSL service because of where they live, for roughly $60-80 a month.

So a total of $180-210 a month.

or

Have StarLink at $120 a month for Broadband.

Then a bunch of streaming services, with commercials, $40-50 a month or without, at $70-80 a month.

A total of $160-200 a month.

Which would you pick, for myself, I will never go back to DSL speeds.

 

[Bruce]

Just in case, I'll have this ready for you. You want Tabasco with that?

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Could not dispute one thing I posted, yet you post that picture.

And I thought you said you were leaving Dish soon anyways?

Content issues are not going to get better, specially since Warner Discovery is cutting the budgets of all their cable channels, then spin them off.

 

[Bruce]

I don't remember them ever talking about 5G home, at first it was this weird IoTs which never made sense.

5G Home was talked about first, then the use to talk to appliances after that.

Remember, Dish started hoarding spectrum in 2012, 7 years before the agreement to take over Boost.

What was plan for all that spectrum for those 7 years, does anyone know, does Dish?

 

[Juan]

It wouldn't cost much to develop an Android box with a remote similar to Dish with channel numbers. This seems to be the biggest complaint I hear from people moving to streaming services.

Even cheaper to develop a Roku app

 

[dishdude]

Even cheaper to develop a Roku app

They need a differentiator like a remote with a numerical keypad.

 

[Juan]

They need a differentiator like a remote with a numerical keypad.

About the size of a jitterbug phone

 

[Bruce]

They need a differentiator like a remote with a numerical keypad.

People are caring less and less about paid live tv, since the majority of channels are nothing but rerun content, why would channel numbers make that big of a difference?

This year, probably 3rd Quarter, there will be more households without paid live tv, then with it here in the United States.

No way to stop the movement to streaming now, specially since all those who own cable channels, are trying to get rid of them by spinning them off into new companies, that will be stuck with the debt.

 

[navychop]

My money is on you having that delicious meal.

Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[navychop]

Could not dispute one thing I posted, yet you post that picture.

Last time I checked, humor was still allowed and legal.

 

[navychop]

And I thought you said you were leaving Dish soon anyways?

I am likely to trial MyEntertainment at $35, even though it must be done thru the (shudder) DTV app, and they seem to make it hard to find there. They want you to buy the more expensive stuff.

That doesn't mean I'll leave Dish. Maybe at year's end. I still cling to faith.

 

[navychop]

They need a differentiator like a remote with a numerical keypad.

Or better yet, run on a fully functional H3. But I suspect the DVR functions would be a hard sell to providers.

NO, you can't just call up old episodes online. They seem to more and more disappear later. Or only certain seasons are available. Kinda cuts back on the streaming allure.

 

[b4pjoe]

Can't have subscribers without working satellites, they're betting on rural and traditional subscribers that don't want to or can't stream, along with DirecTV going all streaming.

YouTube TV would like to have a word with you. Working satellites hasn't been stopping subscribers from leaving. The "can't stream" crowd is shrinking every day. The "don't want to stream" crowd isn't going to be enough to keep cable and satellite TV services afloat.

 

[dishdude]

YouTube TV would like to have a word with you. Working satellites hasn't been stopping subscribers from leaving. The "can't stream" crowd is shrinking every day. The "don't want to stream" crowd isn't going to be enough to keep cable and satellite TV services afloat.

Not a conversation with me, I was just speculating what they're betting on.

 

[AZ.]

I am likely to trial MyEntertainment at $35, even though it must be done thru the (shudder) DTV app, and they seem to make it hard to find there. They want you to buy the more expensive stuff.

That doesn't mean I'll leave Dish. Maybe at year's end. I still cling to faith.

I am more than happy with it(close to 3 months) and my T-Mobile 5g home is working very well.
Im using a Roku box

 

[dishdude]

I am likely to trial MyEntertainment at $35, even though it must be done thru the (shudder) DTV app, and they seem to make it hard to find there. They want you to buy the more expensive stuff.

That doesn't mean I'll leave Dish. Maybe at year's end. I still cling to faith.

I'll probably stick around another year if they renew my $30/mo discount, otherwise they're gone.

 

[HipKat]

Never wrote people were getting it, I posted at least DirecTV is trying.

Quoting you but not picking on you, just for the thread in` general
No one is getting DirecTV Streaming, but at least their t trying
No one is getting Boost and Dish is stupid for trying

That's what I read in this thread

 

[navychop]

I'll probably stick around another year if they renew my $30/mo discount, otherwise they're gone.

Why?

Before I pull the trigger.

 

[Bruce]

Quoting you but not picking on you, just for the thread in` general
No one is getting DirecTV Streaming, but at least their t trying
No one is getting Boost and Dish is stupid for trying

That's what I read in this thread

First, DirecTV has only been trying their new Genre Packs for a few months, way too early to make a judgement.

Dish has been pushing Boost for 5 years, to a loss of 1.8M customers.

I have only been bringing up DirecTV's MyEntertainment pack as an alternative to Sling, which at $35, is less expensive than Sling, which badly needs to update how it offers channel packs.

Paid LiveTV is dying, Dish, DirecTV, etc, new scripted content is now primarily on streaming, with the addition of sports and now News.

The majority of cable channels are now rerun channels, content you can get for free on services like PlutoTV.

Broadcast Channels have become home for cheaper programming like fake reality shows and nighttime game shows.

Like I wrote before, this year, more will be without Paid Live TV, than with it.

Just in the first quarter, paid Live TV lost an estimated 2.2M subscribers, the losses are increasing, when most have thought they would have slowed down by now.

 

[Juan]

First, DirecTV has only been trying their new Genre Packs for a few months, way too early to make a judgement.

Dish has been pushing Boost for 5 years, to a loss of 1.8M customers.

I have only been bringing up DirecTV's MyEntertainment pack as an alternative to Sling, which at $35, is less expensive than Sling, which badly needs to update how it offers channel packs.

Paid LiveTV is dying, Dish, DirecTV, etc, new scripted content is now primarily on streaming, with the addition of sports and now News.

The majority of cable channels are now rerun channels, content you can get for free on services like PlutoTV.

Broadcast Channels have become home for cheaper programming like fake reality shows and nighttime game shows.

Like I wrote before, this year, more will be without Paid Live TV, than with it.

Just in the first quarter, paid Live TV lost an estimated 2.2M subscribers, the losses are increasing, when most have thought they would have slowed down by now.

Paid tv is just being pirated...its much easier to pirate content on a open system like the internet vs cable or satellite