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bfreeman

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Boy, You people know some stuff! And after hours of monitering this site I even understand a little of it. Just bought a Sammy HP-S4253 and called dish to order HD. Here is the confusion. With the infor on Super dish, Dish 1000 etc. I am concerned that I get the right dish. Dish says they want to put two dishes on my roof which I am not wild about. I live near St. Louis and will soon have LocalHD and want to be sure I am getting what I need. I was thinking of starting with Platnum service and if I am going to pay that much I don't want to learn six months from now I can't get all the programing. I'm pretty much a plug and play kinda guy. So is two dishes correct or should I insist on something else.

I've had SD Dish for nearly 4 years. Service has been great only one prolonged outage. Will end up with two SD recievers and 2 HDs.

Thanks
 
Poke

Poke

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If Im not mistaken all you should need is one Dish like the 1000 since your in the Midwest. The 1000 will hit all 3 Sats that you will need to get your programing plus your Local HDs.
 
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Mr Tony

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Hold off for a couple weeks

St Louis LIL HD is on the new 118.7 (119K) so you would need a Dish1000+ which will get
110
119
119K
129

110/119 has normal programming
129 has Nat’l HD
119K will have St Louis HD LIL
 
Poke

Poke

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Hmm so the 119k is the same as the 118.7 Iceberg?? Yeah was not for sure but they show samething on here for St.Louis so the Iceman is right..

http://ekb.dbstalk.com/hdlocal.htm
Updated 6/4/06

TV Market
(click for map) Network and Channel Satellite

Albuquerque
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6324 6326 6327

Atlanta
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6365 6366 6367 6368

Boston
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6318 6319 6320 6321

Chicago
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6312 6313 6314 6315

Dallas
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6383 6384 6385 6386

Denver
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6330 6331 6332 6333

Detroit
Uplinked 5/31/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 119k°

Houston
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6389 6390 6392

Indianapolis
Uplinked 5/31/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 119k°

Kansas City
Available 3/8/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6377 6378 6379 6380

Los Angeles
Available 2/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6306 6307 6308 6309

Miami
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6401 6402 6403 6404

Minneapolis
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6347 6348 6349 6350

Nashville
Available 2/15/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6340 6341 6342 6343

New York City
Available 2/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6300 6301 6302 6303

Philadelphia
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6353 6354 6355 6356

Phoenix
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6446 6447 6448 6449

Portland, OR
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6420 6421 6422 6423

Raleigh
Uplinked 5/31/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 119k°

Sacramento
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox WB 110°, 129°
6395 6396 6397 6399

Salt Lake City
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 129°
6372 6373 6374

San Antonio
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6427 6429

San Diego
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6407 6408 6409

San Francisco
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox KICU KRON 119°, 129°
6438 6439 6440 6441 (test)

Seattle
Available 5/10/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6414 6415 6416

Spokane
Available 5/4/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 110°
6432 6433 6434 6435

St. Louis
Uplinked 5/31/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 119k°

Washington DC
Available 3/1/06 ABC CBS NBC Fox 61.5°
6359 6360 6361 6362

Future planned markets for 2006
Cleveland Memphis
Austin
Baltimore Milwaukee Pittsburgh
Greenville, SC
Buffalo New Orleans Providence Springfield, MO
Burlington Norfolk
Charlotte Jacksonville Tulsa
Cincinnati Oklahoma City
Louisville Orlando
 
gjh3260

gjh3260

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Have had the Silver package with the locals for about 2 months now. At first when i ordered the CSR said i may need 2 dishes but I just use the 1000. I get the Mpls/St. Paul locals off of 129.
 
gjh3260

gjh3260

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ice.......i hear ya.

So does one need a 1000+ to get 119k ? The 1000 wont do. Any idea what channels will be going on the 119k in the future ? Will it just be the future LIL's ?
 
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Mr Tony

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119K is going to be some HD LIL (I think Dish said 6 cities) but mainly Internationals.
 
John Kotches

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So the K would indicate "K band"?

From geosynch orbit isn't that .25 degrees essentially zero? Maybe a distance of an inch or so?

Damn, now I'm doing the math and the satellites are spread by about 55 miles in space...

That's "a lot" but not when it's up there about 25K miles ;)

Cheers,
 
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Just a little recap on the names of dishes and what they do for Dish Network.

Dish 300
Single slot DBS Dish that can pick up programming from one DBS satellite location at a time. DBS locations for Dish are 61.5°, 110°, 119°, 129°, 148 and 157°(not used)

Dish 500
A two slot DBS Dish designed to pick up 110° and 119° simultaneusly. However it can be used to pick up 119° and 129° or just one satellite location like 61.5° or 148°.

Dish 500+
Same as a Dish 500 in function (Receives 119° and 110° simultaneously) with two major differences. First, it is about 5" larger. Second, it also picks up the 118.75° location. This location is known as 118, 118.7 or 119k as well.

Dish 1000
A three slot DBS Dish designed to pick up 110°, 119° and 129° simultaneously.
This dish can be used to pick up 129° and 148° simultaneously.

Dish 1000+
Same as the Dish 1000 in function but about 5" larger and can pick up the 118.75° location. This dish is specifically designed for picking up 110°, 119°, 119k and 129° simultaneously.

Superdish
105
Specifically designed to pick up 105°, 110° and 119°.
121
Specifically designed to pick up 110°, 119° and 121°
Both Superdish flavors can be modified to pick up any combination of satellites from 105°-129° however none of these modifications is supported by Dish Network's Technical support team. This means if you modify the dish or use it in a way other than its designed purpose, you are on your own.

What programming is on what satellite location?
See www.dishchannelchart.com for the moster list of channels on Dish and where they are.
See http://ekb.dbstalk.com/300 for a synopsis of satellite locations and what they do.

Did I miss anything? :)

See ya
Tony
 
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bfreeman

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Thanks that's very helpful. I read the stuff about the new dishs but when you started talking about switches I was afraid it ment I would have to climb on the roof to change the channel. Thanks again
 
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Iceberg said:
Hold off for a couple weeks

St Louis LIL HD is on the new 118.7 (119K) so you would need a Dish1000+ which will get
110
119
119K
129

110/119 has normal programming
129 has Nat’l HD
119K will have St Louis HD LIL

Should I call E* now to get the 1000+? The tech could not get a lock on 129 with 1000 when I switched to HD Platinum. Am I in trouble?
 

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