Hopper S207 Software Release Notes

Scott Greczkowski

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Thanks to DISH I have just received the software release notes for S207 which started rolling out today to the Hopper!

Here you go!

1. Fixed some bugs with apps - so we should not be seeing apps crash
2. Fixed choppy audio on Joey (audio channels) that play fine on Hopper
3. Fixed - Selecting 'Live TV' for currently recording event takes user to
beginning of event
4. Multiple Home Media fixes -
- Home Media Popup when not connected -³Home Media Requires Hopper
Internet Connector or direct internet connection²
- Home Media is only working with Hopper Internet Connector
(MoCA adaptor)
- Home Media not detecting all supported devices on the network

5.fixed - Joey showing not connected even when it is connected through the
Hopper
6. Fixed External Hard Drive issue that was preventing some playbacks
 

jayiw

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Do you know what the release notes for the Joey s259 are? My Joey has none of what you mentioned fixed. Still showing no broadband connection even thought it's connected through the Hopper and apps still do not work correctly on the Joey.
 

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#4 confuses me. So Home Media needs a HIC to work or not?

if you're trying to do the preferred hardwired internet connection, then you'll need to connect an ethernet cable at every Hopper/Joey location where you want to use home media. (Ondemand requires just the hopper(s) to be connected)

Since most people don't have ethernet access at every location, then just about everyone should go with a HIC during the install (and leave wifi as a last resort). The HIC connects all Hopper/Joey locations at just one client line location, so it's pretty much the safest thing to do at this point.
 
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stimpson

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if you're trying to do the preferred hardwired internet connection, then you'll need to connect an ethernet cable at every Hopper/Joey location where you want to use home media.

Since most people don't have ethernet access at every location, then just about everyone should go with a HIC during the install (and leave wifi as a last resort). The HIC connects all Hopper/Joey locations at just one client line location, so it's pretty much the safest thing to do at this point.

I see. Thanks,
 

JPhil

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I have a 1 Hopper 1 Joey setup. Hopper direct connect to ethernet. Home Media NEVER worked for me until today (after S207).

With S207:
Hopper does find all my Home Media Sources.
Joey does display message: "Home Media Requires Hopper Internet Connector or direct internet connection", however, while connecting Joey to ethernet (and resetting network) bypasses the message, the Joey cant find anything. Perhaps "- Home Media is only working with Hopper Internet Connector (MoCA adaptor)" only applies to Joey?
 

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Also, they sorta corrected the usability issue of TV Japan being included in the nested channels "feature".

The original TV Japan channel number is back in the guide. BUT, it shows the wrong logo (HTB/NTV America) and shows "this channel moving to 9989-9990" in the information field. Tuning to that channel number, or selecting it from the guide, does tune it correctly to TV Japan, though.

I'm glad they made it so the H and J can use the proper channel number again. But, why can't they get the guide to populate that channel number correctly? Jeez Louise, their engineers can be so incompetent sometimes. Very frustrating.
 

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I'm confused about #4 and #5! Are they saying that the Joeys can connect to the network via a Hopper's network connection for everything EXCEPT DLNA? If so, why? That's pretty random even by Dish standards!
 

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Surprisingly decent release notes for a change!

I regard the 3 hyphenated issues under #4 as meaning all 3 were fixed. So the HIC (or independent hard wiring) should no longer be required to use DLNA on a Joey.
 

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Also, they sorta corrected the usability issue of TV Japan being included in the nested channels "feature".

The original TV Japan channel number is back in the guide. BUT, it shows the wrong logo (HTB/NTV America) and shows "this channel moving to 9989-9990" in the information field. Tuning to that channel number, or selecting it from the guide, does tune it correctly to TV Japan, though.

I'm glad they made it so the H and J can use the proper channel number again. But, why can't they get the guide to populate that channel number correctly? Jeez Louise, their engineers can be so incompetent sometimes. Very frustrating.

JVJapan is moving to a number in that range, both the spot beam for Hawaii and the Conus beam. 640 temporarily disappeared from 118 and think that was causing what you saw, it is temporarily back. I say that because it didn't show in my guide then came back.
 

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JVJapan is moving to a number in that range, both the spot beam for Hawaii and the Conus beam. 640 temporarily disappeared from 118 and think that was causing what you saw, it is temporarily back. I say that because it didn't show in my guide then came back.
Why would it not stay in the 600 range with the bulk of the International channels? And, why would they do this for the folks not on the H/J who only see 640 in the guide (as opposed to H/J users who also get it on 623-1)? They won't have program guide info, only "This channel is moving...".. Plus, the logo is for NTV. Something stupid is definitely going on.

And, why would the original disappearance coincide EXACTLY with my H/J install, and return with the SW update? Hmmmmmm?
 

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I'm confused about #4 and #5! Are they saying that the Joeys can connect to the network via a Hopper's network connection for everything EXCEPT DLNA? If so, why? That's pretty random even by Dish standards!
No, it just means that the hopper doesn't bridge the Ethernet connection to it's own MoCA network. On Demand is served up over the Video Network in the same way Live TV and Recordings are so an actual IP address on your home network isn't necessary. DLNA doesn't go past your local network, if it didn't then you could serve video up over your home broadband connection and that would open up all kinds of bad stuff in the eyes of content providers.
 

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I could probably have my router forward DLNA if I wanted to (not sure, I never investigated DLNA very deeply since my current media player just accesses my media files via shared folders), but what does that have to do with the Hopper not bridging Ethernet to MoCA? The way the release notes are written, it sounds like it DOES do that for everything except DLNA. Either that, or they need to hire people who can write what they mean. Either way, it's retarded.
 

JPhil

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I have a 1 Hopper 1 Joey setup. Hopper direct connect to ethernet. Home Media NEVER worked for me until today (after S207).

With S207:
Hopper does find all my Home Media Sources.
Joey does display message: "Home Media Requires Hopper Internet Connector or direct internet connection", however, while connecting Joey to ethernet (and resetting network) bypasses the message, the Joey cant find anything. Perhaps "- Home Media is only working with Hopper Internet Connector (MoCA adaptor)" only applies to Joey?

My bad. Long story short, had an IP conflict on the Joey. Fixed it and now get DLNA on the Hopper and Joey (both connected to ethernet).

Notes should read:
Fixed - Home Media is only working with Hopper Internet Connector
(MoCA adaptor)
Fixed - Home Media not detecting all supported devices on the network
 

DustoMan

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I could probably have my router forward DLNA if I wanted to (not sure, I never investigated DLNA very deeply since my current media player just accesses my media files via shared folders), but what does that have to do with the Hopper not bridging Ethernet to MoCA? The way the release notes are written, it sounds like it DOES do that for everything except DLNA. Either that, or they need to hire people who can write what they mean. Either way, it's retarded.

Okay so, you have your home network connected just to the Hopper right (no HIC)? And the Joeys are just connected via MoCA? So what IP address do the Joeys show? An IP address that is served from your router's DHCP service or an address starting with 169.x.x.x?
 

cditty

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When the Hopper and Joey are both connected via ethernet, each of them gets an IP address from the router. I had ethernet at each TV, so I did it that way. I'm on 204 as my software version and I've never had a single problem with my configuration.

I am actually very impressed at how well Dish did on software for this launch. In regards to viewing and recording content via the satellite, I think they did a great job.

I am glad they focused on the core experience the most. When all is said and done, this thing is to play and record programs via satellite delivery. It does that task well (for me).
 

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