How to Rcv the Digital channels (1 Viewer)

Mathpro

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I am currently not rcving any of the digital channels listed below 55 and 2....36, 18, 59, 26 come in but their DT counterparts do not. Any suggestions????


red - uhf WENY 36 ABC ELMIRA NY 309° 2.7 36
* red - uhf WENY-DT 55 ABC ELMIRA NY FCC Ext 309° 2.7 55
red - uhf WETM 18 NBC ELMIRA NY 310° 2.7 18
* red - vhf WETM-DT 18.1 NBC ELMIRA NY 310° 2.7 2
red - uhf W59DG 59 TBN ELMIRA NY 122° 2.4 59
blue - uhf WTTX-LP 30 UPN ELMIRA NY 309° 2.7 30
blue - uhf W26BF 26 FOX ELMIRA NY 42° 3.5 26
violet - uhf WSKG 46 PBS BINGHAMTON NY 103° 45.0 46
violet - uhf WICZ 40 FOX BINGHAMTON NY 104° 45.2 40
violet - uhf WIVT 34 ABC BINGHAMTON NY 103° 45.2 34
violet - vhf WBNG 12 CBS BINGHAMTON NY 104° 44.8 12
 

Mathpro

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Also, antenna web shows fox at 42 degrees but another search engine shows it at 299 so what is it really?????:confused: :confused:
 

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I have a CM 3018 with just an inexpensive RS pre-amp. I am using the TV tuner cable run is maybe 30 ft.
 

Tower Guy

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Mathpro said:
I have a CM 3018 with just an inexpensive RS pre-amp. I am using the TV tuner cable run is maybe 30 ft.

2.7 miles from the Elmira stations is too close for most preamps. They will be overloaded. There is one model designed for overload resistance, the Winegard HDP-269. I don't know but 2.7 miles might be too close for even the HDP-269.
 

Rick0725

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Mathpro said:
I am currently not rcving any of the digital channels listed below 55 and 2....36, 18, 59, 26 come in but their DT counterparts do not. Any suggestions????

from a previous post here a few weeks ago ...still stands.

You may not be able to receive digital outside of your area because of the geography of the area and your current antenna system may not have enough horsepower to even try. And the stations close by inhibits you from using a high gain preamp.

mathpro

I grew up in Endicott, new york and now live north of syracuse.

Our neck of the woods has its reception challenges with all the hills. I just installed a new antenna at my parents home in Endicott. Before I selected the antenna, I wanted to do some testing to determine if a rotor would be feasible there to receive channels outside of the local area.

I pointed toward elmira nothing....syracuse nothing...scranton nothing. Ended up just installing an antenna to service the local market. Installed a winegard hd7082p there.

Your situation...

The digital in bingo are ch 4,7,8 vhf which are low power...2-4 kw ball park and ch 42.

You would need a winegard hd8200p or cm3671 antenna with a winegard hdp269 preamp, but the chances of receiving 4,7,8 will be slim from 40+ miles away. Any high power preamp would overload at your location. Your cm 3018 may not have enough horsepower. They are part of the channel master advantage series antennas which are under performers relation to the high end winegards and cm antennas of similar size.

All the towers are on the same hill. Peak on an analog station ch 12,34, 40 or 46...which ever is weakest... then slightly side to side to try to receive the digital.

I was disappointed at my parents...reception wise.

Also this past saturday afternoon , took a trip to Binghamton to help a fellow poster. He wanted to receive Syracuse digital from about 50 miles away. He had a large radio shack combo. Some of analog came in ok but the digital did not.

We tried the holy grail of internet antenna lore, the CM4228, and the cm4228 did not work either. I added a winegard ap8700 preamp, with no success. The hills just work against us in that part of New York.


And this

if you were to try a preamp suggest the winegard hdp269...the higher gain amps will overload from the towers close by.

If peaking and the preamp do not make you satisfied...the best alternative would be to replace the cm3018 with the hd8200p with the hdp-269 amp

avg antenna gain

3018 113"
lvhf 2.3
hvhf 8.2
uhf 8.4

cm3671 174"
5.6
10.9
10

cm4228
12db avg gain uhf

hd7082p 110"
6.3
10.3
12

hd7084p 133"
7
11
12.1

hd8200p 177"
7
11.5
13.3


the cm3018 and the hd7082 are comparable in size ...this illustrates what I mean by under performing. The winegards perform much better.

My choice in your case would be a Winegard hd8200P with Winegard hdp269 preamp if you would want to take the risk.
 
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Rick0725

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Mathpro said:
Also, antenna web shows fox at 42 degrees but another search engine shows it at 299 so what is it really?????:confused: :confused:

peak the antenna on analog ch 40...minimize ghosting and get best watchable analog signal...the transmitter is on the same tower.

then peak slightly for digital...get a reading of digital signal strength for ch 42. ch42 is only a few thousand watts (2.6kw) though and will be a challenge from there.

if you can not receive ch 40 well, 42 digital reception will be highly unlikely.
 
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