I need help setting up Fta settelite dish

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Pavel

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Hello i bought a Free to air satellite dish with easy find ku Lnbf and Traxis dbs 4000 satellite reciver i want to know how exactly set the dish up when i try to set it up i was only able to get 14% signal quality. i tried to turn it in all directions and i wasn't able to get more then 14 % signal quality. thank you i would really apreciate your help.
 
you will need to supply more info....

- how big is your dish?
- what is the make and model number of your LNB?
- which satellite are you trying to aim at?
- what are your antenna/dish settings?
 
It is a Winegard 31" dish.
DMS International Easy find digital Lnb.
satellite that i want is 97.0 West Galaxy 19.
Dish Settings: Elevation- 36
Azimuth: 207 but i dont know how to be exact with a compass only pretty close could be a couple degrees off.
Lnb skew 19.5
 
use the following settings....

satellite - 97w
LNB type - single or standard
LNB freq - 10600
22khz - ON
TP Freq - 11898

now try to aim your dish....
 
i don't know how to change lnb frequency i looked through all the menus i wasn't able to find it i only found tp frequency.
 
it has been so long since i have used that receiver i can not even remember....maybe somebody else can guide you through it....it has to be in there somewhere....without all the proper settings you will not get any signal quality even if you ARE aimed correctly....
 
Look under the Traxis receiver section.You can ask there but do a search first.You will probably find it already asked.G'luck
 
can i get any outer satellite with what i have because i cant get 97w can someone give me receiver settings and satellite aliment for the easiest satellite i can get with my dish. i don't know why with the eassy find lnb i cant get yellow light. and i found where to change lnb frequency
 
Pavel, I'm not so sure that "EasyFind" thing works as advertised-I remember reading where one user didn't have any better luck with setting up his dish than any other receiver would have. You have to set up the satellite you want, in your receiver's setup menu, tune that receiver to an active frequency on that satellite, then aim the dish. Check "TheList" , top of page and pick a frequency to use. Then it's a matter of slowly panning dish back and forth while watching receiver's signal strength meters......it takes a bit of patience. What settings do you have in the receiver now, for 97W ?? edit to add link to a review of your receiver/lnbf : Traxis DBS4000 & Easy Find LNBF Review That may give you some pointers also.......post back if you need further help.
 
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i don't know how to change lnb frequency i looked through all the menus i wasn't able to find it i only found tp frequency.

Pavel,

Hello and good day!!

First, do you understand the difference between the LNBF frequency and the TP frequency? They are two very distinct things. If you were not sure, you will need to become familiar in order to understand what setting you are looking for in your Traxis. Bare with me if you already understand the electronics part of this and were simply trying to locate the specific menu to ensure it was set correctly. I will explain it as if you don't know for the benefit of other members who are new and may not understand.

The TP (or tansponder) frequency is the transmission frequency coming down from the satellite. You have no control over this frequency, obviously, as it is set by the satellite owner. For a typical linear (North American) satellite, the frequency will fall in the range of 11.700 GHz and 12.200 GHz, but it isn't limited to this range. But, you can accept that this as most common.

The LNBF frequency is the frequency of an internal oscillator within the LNBF unit. You have no control over this either, it is set by the manufacturer of the particular LNBF that you purchase and install. This oscillator is called the "Local Oscillator" or the L.O. for short. This frequency is typically 5250 for C-Band and 10750 for Ku band.

The incoming TP frequency gets mixed with the frequency of the L.O. and produces a much lower "difference" frequency (the L-Band frequency). This frequency is low enough that we can use inexpensive cable to route the signal into the house and into the receiver without degrading the signal too much. If we didn't "down-convert" the TP frequency to the lower L-Band frequency, we would have to buy million dollar cables!

Now, when we speak of the LNB or LNBF frequency or L.O. frequency, we are referring to the frequency of this Local Oscillator within the LNBF unit. As I mentioned, this frequency is SET and FIXED by the manufacturer of the LNB. Just like the TP frequency is set and fixed by the satellite owner.

When you buy a new LNBF to attach to your FTA system, you have to know what type you are buying first. If you want to receive C-Band signals, you need to purchase a C-Band LNB (or LNA). If you want to receive Ku band signals, you have to buy a LNBF that supports Ku band signals. That is logical to get the right equipment for the job.

However, you must inform the receiver what you actually bought. The reciever is a dumb box otherwise. So you have to find the setting that tells your receiver that your LNBF (LNB or LNA) has a local oscillator frequency of "XXXXX" Mhz / Ghz. When you have it set right, then your receiver will understand which L-Band frequency to look for as the incoming signal. Then the tuner may process the signal properly.

So, you need to look for something in your menu that refers to the L.O. frequency, LNB frequency or LNB Type. Since I don't have experience with the Traxis, I don't know where that menu is or what they use for the terminology.

Basically, the process is just simple math. The difference between the L.O. frequency and the TP frequency becomes the L-Band frequency and that is what the receiver is looking for. So, if the TP frequency is 11700 and the L.O. frequency is 10750, then the L-Band frequency is 950. But, if in your menus you have told the receiver that the L.O. frequency is 10600, then the receiver will be searching for an incoming frequency that is the difference between 11700 and 10600 (or 1100) and that frequency won't be there, so the receiver will tell you that it doesn't see a signal at all, hence the low signal level and low or non-existant quality reading.

If you know and understand this, then you know the theory. If you know the theory, then is is just a matter of determining the location to enter the proper data within the menus. I wish I knoew precisely where to direct you, but I don't know the Traxis, so I would be guessing. But I would be willing to say somewhere in the main set up page for each specific and individual satellite.

Hope this information helps and makes sense.

RADAR
 
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