Interesting article as to why a certain someone should not be voted NBA MVP

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I read this article and as much as I was pretty sure Derrick Rose was the league MVP, reasonable doubt has not crept into my head.

You guys decided....

For Chicago Bulls’ Derrick Rose, winning alters all numbers

By Dan Le Batard

These are the numbers/facts without manipulation:

Through Saturday, Player X has averaged 22.2 points on .444 shooting with 4.6 rebounds, 8.3 assists and 1.8 steals. He has been his conference’s player of the week four times.

Player Y has averaged 24.9 points on .439 shooting with 4.2 rebounds, 7.9 assists and 1.0 steals. He has been his conference’s player of the week twice.

They are essentially the same player, in other words. Player X is more efficient and a better rebounder and thief, but Player Y scores one more basket per game. Yet Player X isn’t even considered the most valuable player on his own team. And Player Y is about to be named the most valuable player of the entire league.

Why Y?

Perception is not reality. Reality is reality. Player X (Russell Westbrook) isn’t viewed like Player Y (Derrick Rose) because winning alters all, even facts, even if one team is 53-19 and the other is 47-24. Exceed our expectations, and we’ll give you trophies you don’t deserve instead of admitting that our expectations were, um, wrong.

Rose has thorns

The Bulls’ offense is statistically mediocre; Rose is that offense’s best player. The Bulls’ defense is best in the league; Rose might be that defense’s least important piece. But throw all the ingredients together in the Winning Pot, make a stew with a flavor that surprises us and you, too, can taste like MVP.

Rose benefits from the greatness of his teammates, but Westbrook is harmed by the greatness of his more famous one (Kevin Durant). Would Westbrook be MVP if he simply had Chicago’s defense? Would he be a bigger scorer than Rose if he didn’t have to share with Durant? The only reason Rose scores 2.7 points more than Westbrook per game? He has taken 200 more shots.

They should just rename the MVP trophy The We Didn’t Expect To See Rose Sitting Atop LeBron In The Standings Award.

A million variables go into winning, but baseball is so much better at isolating and measuring those variables than basketball. Felix Hernandez won Cy Young with a 13-12 record in last place because baseball voters understand, after a mathematical paradigm shift called sabermetrics, how much Hernandez can and can’t control. And baseball is an individual sport masquerading as a team sport anyway. Albert Pujols is alone in that batter’s box, and it doesn’t matter if he listens to his manager or likes his third baseman. Hernandez controlled that baseball only when he held it; he couldn’t do anything about how terrible his teammates were at scoring.

Group effort

But basketball’s five are linked like fingers in a fist, and isolating performance is next to impossible, especially on defense. So intangibles get assigned to the winning instead of facts or data, and Rose has in his favor the Hey-I-Didn’t-Expect-The-Bulls-To-Be-Good metric that LeBron or Dwight Howard or Kobe or any of the Spurs or Mavs or Celtics can’t have. It is absurd that he will soon have as many MVPs as Shaquille O’Neal, but not as absurd as Steve Nash having twice as many as Shaq.

The Bulls aren’t exceeding expectations because Rose is a “leader” or “knows how to win” or is “clutch.” They are exceeding expectations because no team in the league strangles the opponent better on defense. You want to give the Bulls coach of the year for that? Cool. Defensive player of the year? Fine. But MVP for the league’s 20th-ranked offense? The one scoring less than Indiana, Toronto, Philadelphia, the Clippers and Sacramento?

Rose has been named the best player in his conference two weeks this season. Two. So, too, has LeMarcus Aldridge. How can you be the most valuable for the entire season when you were only the most valuable in your conference two weeks? Almost everywhere outside of sports and Visa commercials, “best” and “most valuable” are supposed to be synonyms. And try paying your Visa bill with a check that reads “priceless,” and see how that works for you.

None of this is meant as an indictment of Rose.

He’s just not the best one.

Which means he’s not the most valuable.

For Chicago Bulls? Derrick Rose, winning alters all numbers - Dan Le Batard - MiamiHerald.com
 
It's LeRetard, so don't forget the fact that Rose's best two teammates were out for half the season. Let's also not forget the Bulls are top in the east, Thunder are 4th in the west. Westbrook isn't even the best player or leader of his team, making him lose many points. I also think the Thunder have a better overall team than the Bulls, but the teammate argument was moot in the case for several deserving MVP candidates over the past decade. The MVP has also transformed into the best player or leading player on the best team in the regular season. The Spurs don't really have a player that deserves the MVP IMO. No one on the Lakers stands out as having a remarkable season. Next in line is Chicago with Rose. Then comes Boston who is slumping, and who would you give it to on that team? For the Heat, you can't take Wade over LeBron or LeBron over Wade. The team only does well when both play amazing games and the only elite team they have beat are the Lakers.
The only real candidates are Rose and Howard. Both deserve it a lot. Do you want co-MVPs? I don't, it diminishes the award. Either way, one of them will get robbed. Where would the Bulls be if Noah, Boozer, and Rose had been out half the season? Where would the magic, who aren't very good, be without Dwight?
LeRetard is a terrible writer and doesn't even watch basketball. To say Rose isn't Chicago's best offensive player is mind-blowing. They must have some good drugs down there in Miami. The MVP award has been messed up for a long time, but now that he has had the Heat kool aid and is on the bandwagon, someone from his superfriends has to win.
 
Lkr said:
It's LeRetard, so don't forget the fact that Rose's best two teammates were out for half the season. Let's also not forget the Bulls are top in the east, Thunder are 4th in the west. Westbrook isn't even the best player or leader of his team, making him lose many points. I also think the Thunder have a better overall team than the Bulls, but the teammate argument was moot in the case for several deserving MVP candidates over the past decade. The MVP has also transformed into the best player or leading player on the best team in the regular season. The Spurs don't really have a player that deserves the MVP IMO. No one on the Lakers stands out as having a remarkable season. Next in line is Chicago with Rose. Then comes Boston who is slumping, and who would you give it to on that team? For the Heat, you can't take Wade over LeBron or LeBron over Wade. The team only does well when both play amazing games and the only elite team they have beat are the Lakers.
The only real candidates are Rose and Howard. Both deserve it a lot. Do you want co-MVPs? I don't, it diminishes the award. Either way, one of them will get robbed. Where would the Bulls be if Noah, Boozer, and Rose had been out half the season? Where would the magic, who aren't very good, be without Dwight?
LeRetard is a terrible writer and doesn't even watch basketball. To say Rose isn't Chicago's best offensive player is mind-blowing. They must have some good drugs down there in Miami. The MVP award has been messed up for a long time, but now that he has had the Heat kool aid and is on the bandwagon, someone from his superfriends has to win.

He never says he is not the best offensive player... He says he is the best offensive player on a mediocre offense and is an average to mediocre player on the best defense. If you consider how Shaq has only won ONE MVP awards and MJ should have won it every year he played in the 90s..... He makes valid points.
 
I love Westbrook, and he continues to improve and impress year after year. But, he's not the NBA's most valuable player this year. At the rate he's improving, someday he just might be. He may be the best playmaker now, but his defense needs to keep improving, and his offense needs to become more consistent.
 

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