Move a dish about 15 feet...

I'm sure they have to maintain a policy of not accepting tips to keep workers from asking or hinting for them. It becomes effectively a policy of not asking, but not refusing either. I got 'tipped' occasionally but customers knew it was my own business.

I guess the new spot worked, but simply having a 97 dish in same place would be no sure indicator that 110/119 would also work. Also, what's the "expanding foam" used to anchor the post? It's not what I'm thinking, is it...?
This is one brand:

 
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I'm sure they have to maintain a policy of not accepting tips to keep workers from asking or hinting for them. It becomes effectively a policy of not asking, but not refusing either. I got 'tipped' occasionally but customers knew it was my own business.

I guess the new spot worked, but simply having a 97 dish in same place would be no sure indicator that 110/119 would also work. Also, what's the "expanding foam" used to anchor the post? It's not what I'm thinking, is it...?
No one uses concrete anymore. 1 bag of foam has the strength of several bags of concrete. No reason to carry all those bags of Quickrete anymore
This is the foam we use

 
End of the year questions that techs look forward to;
"Do you like cookies?" and "Do you like Venison?"

Best tip I got was a glass of homemade wine. It was right before Christmas, I finished up the install and I was about to show him how to operate his 311, guy asked if I liked wine and said he made his own. I said sure! Wine was great and hit the spot as I showed him how everything worked.

Also had an old lady give me a brand new $2 bill. She said as long as you hold on to this, you'll never be broke.
 
Don't ask, don't tell...don't tell me you didn't see that coming.

Best I got was a full bottle of homemade.

That's not good for Satellite poles. Even a small portion of the bag expands to where it blows out the top of the hole. This is for setting posts, like deck posts
On looking at the two I don't see any difference other than one headlines itself as sat post "cement" and for general deck/fence/mailbox post setting. Both are 2-part expanding foam, apparently mixed in the bag. The one you say is "not good" says it's "laterally" (as opposed to "literally", I suppose) as strong as concrete. Why's one good & not the other?
 
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Don't ask, don't tell...don't tell me you didn't see that coming.

Best I got was a full bottle of homemade.


On looking at the two I don't see any difference other than one headlines itself as sat post "cement" and for general deck/fence/mailbox post setting. Both are 2-part expanding foam, apparently mixed in the bag. The one you say is "not good" says it's "laterally" (as opposed to "literally", I suppose) as strong as concrete. Why's one good & not the other?
The pole foam is enough to fill the hole we dig for the pole. The POST foam is enough to fill 10 of those same holes. I explained this in the post above. The second bag is for much deeper and larger holes.
 
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The pole foam is enough to fill the hole we dig for the pole. The POST foam is enough to fill 10 of those same holes. I explained this in the post above. The second bag is for much deeper and larger holes.
Oh, OK...too much quantity and have to use it all at once. So I guess the larger one would be economical if you had 10 deck posts all set up for a 1-go run.

So then...what actually is the stuff, chemically? As in icenene foam, polyurethane, etc.
 
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Oh, OK...too much quantity and have to use it all at once. So I guess the larger one would be economical if you had 10 deck posts all set up for a 1-go run.

So then...what actually is the stuff, chemically? As in icenene foam, polyurethane, etc.
Ever see spray foam?? It goes in as a thick "liquid" and expands to a hard foam, filling the hole. Same thing as spray foam, and you only get one use out of a bag. Once it's open, it's done
 
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I've only seen the consumer gap-filling foam or commercial icenene foam sprayed in basements for insulation. Never for polesetting. I would be interested in documentation for this use.
 
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It wasn't this brand from Amazon, but similar.
The stuff he had was in a tube shape, almost like a tube of cut and bake cookie dough, about 2" diameter x 10" length.
The installer that set the original pole 4 yrs ago used the same stuff.
Also why he said that Dish require they dig down 3 ft.
Steel post is set in, activated the mix, poured it in the hole, and the post was solid and ready for the dish in 15 minutes.
Dish also gives them posts with a flat section, allowing for the mix to solidify, preventing the post from turning. The flat section was about 1 ft long and about six inches from the end of the post, and the post had black markings every six inches...easy reading for field inspection that do random quality checks.
 
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