New DISH Equipment

[charlesrshell]

Has anyone heard anything new about the new DISH equipment?

DISH Network Has New Set-Tops In The Hopper

While legacy television services continue to contract, I remain a subscriber (for now) and keep on eye on Dish as one of the most technically progressive service providers (and having personally been acquired, way back when). Now cable and satellite companies don’t iterate at the speed of...

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[bnewt]

would be interested in the wireless joey 4
would also be nice to have the ota tuners built in, as I don't care too much for the usb module
I don't seem to get as good reception as I did with the 722's

 

[dweber]

would be interested in the wireless joey 4
would also be nice to have the ota tuners built in, as I don't care too much for the usb module
I don't seem to get as good reception as I did with the 722's

A Joey is strictly a client so it would not have an OTA tuner built in.

But I am interested in the future Joey 4 since I am guessing that it will overcome the problems that the existing 4K Joey has with using HDR on the satellite broadcasts such as the Olympic 4K broadcasts.


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[dweber]

Thought I would bump this thread to see if anyone has any news regarding the new Dish equipment. Any idea when they will release the equipment? I wonder if the chip shortages have delayed manufacturing.


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[Scott Greczkowski]

Take it from me. No news is good news.


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[DishSubLA]

Suspense is killing me .

 

[navychop]

Digital lilies for your virtual grave.

 

[HipKat]

Thought I would bump this thread to see if anyone has any news regarding the new Dish equipment. Any idea when they will release the equipment? I wonder if the chip shortages have delayed manufacturing.


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No idea but I assume it's not too far off since it all shows up in equipment lists

 

[david_jr]

All??????

 

[NashGuy]

Has anyone heard anything new about the new DISH equipment?

DISH Network Has New Set-Tops In The Hopper

While legacy television services continue to contract, I remain a subscriber (for now) and keep on eye on Dish as one of the most technically progressive service providers (and having personally been acquired, way back when). Now cable and satellite companies don’t iterate at the speed of...

zatznotfunny.com

Hmm, I remember reading (and even commenting on) this article on Zatz's blog awhile back but somehow I completely missed at the time the detail that these new DISH units will feature an Android UI. As this tweet suggests, it'll likely be Android TV with access to those apps in the Google Play store. That would dramatically increase the scope of apps available to DISH receivers.

The product list at that tweet describes the upcoming Hopper Plus as "Hopper DVR upgrade for Android UI". Could it be something that plugs into the existing Hopper 3 and Hopper Duo boxes to give them a UI refresh and the ability to run Android TV apps?

 

[TheKrell]

Could it be something that plugs into the existing Hopper 3 and Hopper Duo boxes to give them a UI refresh and the ability to run Android TV apps?

I think it's software. But the only reason I can say that is I don't really know.

 

[NashGuy]

I think it's software. But the only reason I can say that is I don't really know.

Hopper Plus has to be hardware, given that it's been submitted to the Bluetooth standards body for approval and DISH has assigned it a hardware model number of D25. (Meanwhile, the Joey 4 is D35 and the Wireless Joey 4 is D45.) But the software/OS running on all three pieces of hardware appears to be Android.

 

[Foxbat]

Would that beget a new series of "A" version numbers? "A100", and such, for these new Dx5 models?

 

[DishSubLA]

It could allow for multiple streams of more linear "streaming channels" instead of those channels being up-linked. Just about every linear channel on cable/sat, and even OTA digital nets, has its channels available for streaming via the internet, so this could do two things for Dish:

1. Allow for more content/channels for Dish subscribers to access.

2. Less reliance on satellites and perhaps the eventual conversion, over years, to Dish and Sling being merged as ONE streaming service, and no need to launch new satellites.

FWIW, in the short run, I would not be surprised if DirecTV sells or leases one or more of its DBS sats or sell its licenses at 119 & 110 to Dish because the new people RUNNING DirecTV--being one of those Equity--Uh, strip the assests and sell for the cash--companies would just LOVE to turn DirecTV assets into instant CASH. They would not consider Dish a competitor, but, instead, the only entity willing to give it CASH for its some of its assets.

 

[NashGuy]

It could allow for multiple streams of more linear "streaming channels" instead of those channels being up-linked. Just about every linear channel on cable/sat, and even OTA digital nets, has its channels available for streaming via the internet, so this could do two things for Dish:

1. Allow for more content/channels for Dish subscribers to access.

2. Less reliance on satellites and perhaps the eventual conversion, over years, to Dish and Sling being merged as ONE streaming service, and no need to launch new satellites.

Interesting theory and it's certainly possible that Dish plans to offer more linear channels via streaming. But why couldn't they do that with the current hardware? Those boxes (if internet-connected) can already access certain linear channels that are streaming-only, such as some of the recently-added HBO channels.

Only reason I can think why they'd be switching to hardware with an "Android UI" as these new units have is because they want access to apps from Google Play. All over the world, we're seeing pay TV operators move toward one of two OS platforms for their boxes: Google's Android TV Operator Tier (which, for instance, DirecTV Stream uses on their boxes) or RDK (an open-source framework that's largely backed by Comcast in the US and Liberty Global in Europe). RDK is mainly being used by traditional cable operators while Android TV is being adopted by everyone else, particularly IPTV/telco/fiber operators.

 

[ty1273]

It could allow for multiple streams of more linear "streaming channels" instead of those channels being up-linked. Just about every linear channel on cable/sat, and even OTA digital nets, has its channels available for streaming via the internet, so this could do two things for Dish:

1. Allow for more content/channels for Dish subscribers to access.

2. Less reliance on satellites and perhaps the eventual conversion, over years, to Dish and Sling being merged as ONE streaming service, and no need to launch new satellites.

FWIW, in the short run, I would not be surprised if DirecTV sells or leases one or more of its DBS sats or sell its licenses at 119 & 110 to Dish because the new people RUNNING DirecTV--being one of those Equity--Uh, strip the assests and sell for the cash--companies would just LOVE to turn DirecTV assets into instant CASH. They would not consider Dish a competitor, but, instead, the only entity willing to give it CASH for its some of its assets.

Satellite tv is on the way out. Costs way too much to build new birds. Streaming is the way now and with broadband internet becoming available in the boonies soon. Starlink is going to make that happen now. Plus Dish will have it made since they will only have 10 channels to stream due to cheap Charlie not paying higher retransmission fees. Does he think that Dish should be allowed to carry programming for at no cost to Dish? Sorry Charlie, it does not work that way.

 

[Radioguy41]

Satellite tv is on the way out. Costs way too much to build new birds. Streaming is the way now and with broadband internet becoming available in the boonies soon. Starlink is going to make that happen now. Plus Dish will have it made since they will only have 10 channels to stream due to cheap Charlie not paying higher retransmission fees. Does he think that Dish should be allowed to carry programming for at no cost to Dish? Sorry Charlie, it does not work that way.

There are so many things wrong with this post I'm not even going to attempt to address them.

 

[sktrus]

I think you should. A good informative debate is always helpful. When you attempt to predict future nobody has a crystal ball.
My biggest concern with Starlink is it won't be able to handle millions of streaming starving country folks. Too many subscribers, slower connection. Monthly cost is still too much for many. But, Musk says they will reduce the equipment cost from $500 to 250. I think that's a good start.

 

[ncted]

Costs way too much to build new birds.

This depends entirely on how many subscribers you have. If subscriber numbers stabilized, it would still be cheaper than how much it costs YTTV or Hulu+Live to deliver content per subscriber. The real problem is fewer and fewer people seem to want [all] their content delivered in the traditional way over time.

 

[DishSubLA]

I think you should. A good informative debate is always helpful. When you attempt to predict future nobody has a crystal ball.
My biggest concern with Starlink is it won't be able to handle millions of streaming starving country folks. Too many subscribers, slower connection. Monthly cost is still too much for many. But, Musk says they will reduce the equipment cost from $500 to 250. I think that's a good start.

Don't forget the POLLUTION of the skies and astronomers unable to view without significant obstruction. I would think the young folks who are freaking out about WASTE, and POLLUTION, and "saving the planet" would among the first to find Starlink as an Elon Musk MONEY GRAB, horribly inefficient wast of resources that will pollute the skies, but they (pretty much like everybody else) won't see such harmful negatives because it suits their needs.

I hope I live long enough to see this thoughtless young generation to turn into the opposite of what they are today, just like Boomers who went from calling police "pigs" to now demanding police protect their neighborhood and businesses, and who went from "sell out" and "dropping out" mature into living the American Dream as home owners and 401K's and working for "the Man" because it beats living in a tent in a commune, they just LOVE luxury that they used to scorn and you see them all in Bristol Farms purchasing their favorite foodies . Young People (and that Swedish mean girl?), come out and PROTEST this inefficient (and reviews call it UNRELIABLE and NOT possible for apartment dwellers, since the Young Ones may NEVER be able buy a home), highly polluting technology. Young people, you know there are other more "SUSTAINABLE" ways to get broadband to rural areas, so be consistent and vote Musk down. . And by the way the real money for Starlink really is the suburban folk who are looking for an alternative to their current sky high ISP, just like satellite's biggest money makers were and still are in the cities and suburbs who switched from Cable. Serving only rural areas for Starlink will NOT satisfy the costs nor the GREED!