Patent Office upholds Tivo's "time warp" patent, EchoStar not so happy

[Mike0616]

According to this page, First Glimpse Article - Anthony Wood’s Lucky Number, ReplayTV "...beat TiVo to the market by a few weeks to become the first DVR (digital video recorder)".

ReplayTV also has approx (58) patents filed though only maybe (15) were before 2000.

That is NOT exactly what I would call a definitive source. This IS the internet and any crackpot can say anything they wish on their own sites. That article was interesting, but contained enough FACTUAL ERRORS that I would have problems believing anything on it.

Now if you can find patent numbers, please cite them, as they are what I would consider to be a credible source.


Note of just a couple of errors of fact in cited article: PC-Talk was AN old communications program and there were LOADS of dial up programs when that guy created the 1st telecom program. We were using dial-up communications programs in the early 70s for commercial applications as well as for hobbyist. Also, the Amiga was never a great success now was it used in Hollywood for Graphics on a serious basis. PDP (aka DEC) and others had the mini-computers that did that work, as microcomputers were too limited and slow for any serious work.

 

[Jim S.]

Thanks for the great laugh, chuckie!

You are now nominated for the "most ridiculous argument of the year award."

If you ever bother to check out ANY facts whatsoever, you may notice that Linux is a copyrighted material and has reserved rights as well. Same for most of the decent apps that run on that base product.

If you're referring to the General Public License that prevents Linux from being converted into a proprietary product, that's a good thing for the consumer. You must think it's a bad thing because you stand for greedy businesses. The real ridiculous argument is the one that says that a business, a fictional entity, should have the same rights as a human being.

 

[Greg Bimson]

The real ridiculous argument is the one that says that a business, a fictional entity, should have the same rights as a human being.

Uh, all of the Constitution and its amendments apply to both people and businesses.

 

[Mike0616]

Uh, all of the Constitution and its amendments apply to both people and businesses.

Now Greg, don't confuse him with facts. There are some that are making such irrational and baseless arguments about this topic that its simply hilarious.

Of people don't like the patent laws, they ought to get off their a$$es and get the law changed, but until it is, STEALING patented technology is NOT legal, no matter how much of a chuckie apologist you are. If the patent laws are changed to allow infringement (nice word for THEFT) at will, look for only the extremely foolish to spend money on research and development, as without being able to own the technology and use or license it for a predetermined time, there will be no incentive whatsoever. None, nada, zilch.

 

[Mike0616]

If you're referring to the General Public License that prevents Linux from being converted into a proprietary product, that's a good thing for the consumer.

Nope, take a look at the software, there are copyrights on Linux and most of the products I have seen for it. The GPL is a novel idea and is serving its purpose, but it is NOT the same thing as a copyright. Check out wiki or somewhere to find out the differences, as you seem to be confusing patents, copyrights, GPL, etc.

You must think it's a bad thing because you stand for greedy businesses.

Say what? And you know that because? lol, you have no idea what you are saying, just ranting because you think THEFT is ok, huh? Do YOU steal often or do you just think its ok for E* to when they find it convenient? Exactly when do you support theft? Do you support bank robbery as well?

It looks, by your blind support of E* in this matter that YOU are the one who supports greedy business, does it not?

The real ridiculous argument is the one that says that a business, a fictional entity, should have the same rights as a human being.

Aha, you are a Marxist? Or do you just pick and choose which laws you will obey? Is it OK for a corporation to steal, but not people? Vice-versa?

 

[kb7oeb]

GPL is a license of software that has copyright protection. The author(s) grant free use of the software and source code with the requirement derivate works be made available to the public. The lawsuits against companies violating GPL are claims of violation of the authors copyrights.

A good example is mysql, this software is available from the author in both GPL and commercial licenses. If you don't want to be subject the GPL license you can pay for a traditional commercial license.