So I noticed that last week the HD locals for Santa Barbara (Santa Maria/San Luis Obispo) were uplinked to Ciel2, probably for just planning/testing purposes. But now what? Has anyone seen this market on any plans or have an estimated timeframe for their actual arrival (spare the "soon" remarks!)? I'm excited, but I know it's a ways off. Any info would be great. Thanks.
Santa Barbara HD Locals Uplinked, Now What?
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As was pointed out in one of the uplink threads, technically those reports are just the channel tables. That a channel shows up on that list only means they have a channel placeholder in the system, and doesn't mean that they have the signal actually uplinked to the sat.
It's definitely a good sign that things could be coming, though.
It's definitely a good sign that things could be coming, though.
I am Waiting impatiently also !
Having a new HD TV I really cant handle watching SD programs too often,so I basically avoid local channels except for the news.
I am in same boat as you.I hope we see HD locals in the near future..
I too live in the Santa Barbara DMA(Lompoc) and have been awaiting very impatiently for are Locals to go HD,its exciting to see that they are working on,but would be nice if they would give us an estimate of when they would be up and ready.
Having a new HD TV I really cant handle watching SD programs too often,so I basically avoid local channels except for the news.
I am in same boat as you.I hope we see HD locals in the near future..
Good comment. I've seen them come and go away on those channel tables, and then other occasions, the channels go live with minimal notice in just a few days after appearing on the tables. And no real explanation either way.
Santa Barbara and Santa Maria are basically in the center of Spot Beam 32 on Ciel 2. If they do go live with your locals, you should have an excellent signal.
I found this information on another site:
HD Locals Market Launches: Launching on February 18th: Cedar Rapids, IA ; Champaign, IL; Dayton, OH; Fresno, CA; New Orleans, LA; Toledo OH. Launching February 25th Charleston, SC; Colorado Springs, CO; El Paso, TX; Savahhah, GA; Tallahasse, FL; Tri Cities, TN/VA.
Scheduled to Launch sometime in March include: Albany, Ga; Deluth, MN; Indianapolis, IN; Santa Barbra, CA; Bakersfield, CA; Erie, PA; Lafayette, LA; Peoria, Il; Sherman-Ada Tx/OK; Boise, ID; Eugene, OR; Las Vegas, NV; Roanoke, Val Sioux City, IA; Chico, CA; Fargo ND; Monterey, CA; Reno, NV; Yakima, WA; Corpus Christi TV, Harlingen, TX; Montgomery, AL; Rockford, IL, Youngstown, PA/OH.
HD Locals coming after March, Baton Rouge, LA; Ft. Smith, AR; Great Falls, MT; Medford, Or; Panama City, FL; Butte MT; Ft. Wayne IN; Idaho Falls, ID; Meridian, MS; Sious Falls, SD; Cheyenne, WY; Gainsville, FL; Johnstown, PA; Minot, ND; Terre Haute, IN; Columbus, OH; Grand Junction, CO; La Crosse, WI; Missoula MT; Twin Falls, ID; Columbus-Tupelo, MS; Ft. Smith AR; Laredo, TX; Odessa, TX; Wausau, WI.
Uplink Comparison Range: 02/04/2009 12:07P - 02/04/2009 12:42P
Channel Additions:
134 - SHNBC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 11 ConUS beam (A)
134 - SHNBC [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar8 77W TP 12 ConUS beam (A)
Channel Removals:
621 - ARYDI (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam
651 - ARYOW (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam
903 - AAGTV (A) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam
6103 - ARYDI (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 08 ConUS beam
6105 - ARYOW (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam
6111 - AAGTV (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam
Channel Package Flag Changes:
205 - FXNWS [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 06 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
205 - FXNWS [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar6 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
400 - TENIS [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 05 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
400 - TENIS [MPEG4 SD] - EchoStar8 77W TP 29 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
574 - NDTV [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 02 ConUS beam changed to Available
574 - NDTV [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 08 ConUS beam changed to Available
575 - SAB [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 24 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
575 - SAB [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
588 - BLUE [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
588 - BLUE [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 27 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
588 - BLUE [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
712 - RTR [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 24 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
747 - ARYOW [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 27 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
749 - RKINO [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 27 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
756 - RDSLZ [MPEG AUDIO] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 22 ConUS beam changed to Available (H)
818 - ATN [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 19 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
5131 - KUAC3 [MPEG4 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 13 ConUS beam changed to Available (H)(Fairbanks, AK)
7082(49) - WBME [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 Area 4 beam changed to Available (H)
7172(18) - WMAV [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 05 Area 9 beam changed to Available (H)(Oxford, MS)
7174(14) - WTWV [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 05 Area 9 beam changed to Available (H)(Memphis, TN)
8717(64) - WLLA [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 Area 4 beam changed to Available (H)(Kalamazoo, MI)
8761(30) - WRAY [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 03 Area 5 beam changed to Available (H)(Wilson, NC)
8786(62) - WMFP [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 05 Area 6 beam changed to Available (H)(Lawrence, MA)
8875(21) - WTCE [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 01 Area 2 beam changed to Available (H)(Fort Pierce, FL)
9059(59) - WJEB [MPEG4 SD] - EchoStar8 77W TP 05 ConUS beam changed to Available (H)(Jacksonville, FL)
9118(56) - KDMI [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 Area 8 beam changed to Available (H)(Des Moines, IA)
9442(400) - TENIS [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 29 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9442(400) - TENIS [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
Channel Mapdown Changes:
7950 - KTWO EchoStar1 148W TP 21 ConUS beam mapdown of 2 removed (A) (H)(Casper, WY)
7951 - KGWC EchoStar1 148W TP 21 ConUS beam mapdown of 14 removed (A) (H)(Casper, WY)
7952 - KCWY EchoStar1 148W TP 21 ConUS beam mapdown of 13 removed (A) (H)(Casper, WY)
7953 - KFNB EchoStar1 148W TP 21 ConUS beam mapdown of 20 removed (A) (H)(Casper, WY)
8331 - KAZT EchoStar10 110W TP 20 Spotbeam 35 mapdown changed from 27 to 7 (A) (H)(Phoenix, AZ)
9645 - LF1 EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam mapdown of 72 added (A)
9645 - LF1 EchoStar8 77W TP 29 ConUS beam mapdown of 72 added (A)
Channels in the system: 6507
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers
HD Locals Market Launches: Launching on February 18th: Cedar Rapids, IA ; Champaign, IL; Dayton, OH; Fresno, CA; New Orleans, LA; Toledo OH. Launching February 25th Charleston, SC; Colorado Springs, CO; El Paso, TX; Savahhah, GA; Tallahasse, FL; Tri Cities, TN/VA.
Scheduled to Launch sometime in March include: Albany, Ga; Deluth, MN; Indianapolis, IN; Santa Barbra, CA; Bakersfield, CA; Erie, PA; Lafayette, LA; Peoria, Il; Sherman-Ada Tx/OK; Boise, ID; Eugene, OR; Las Vegas, NV; Roanoke, Val Sioux City, IA; Chico, CA; Fargo ND; Monterey, CA; Reno, NV; Yakima, WA; Corpus Christi TV, Harlingen, TX; Montgomery, AL; Rockford, IL, Youngstown, PA/OH.
HD Locals coming after March, Baton Rouge, LA; Ft. Smith, AR; Great Falls, MT; Medford, Or; Panama City, FL; Butte MT; Ft. Wayne IN; Idaho Falls, ID; Meridian, MS; Sious Falls, SD; Cheyenne, WY; Gainsville, FL; Johnstown, PA; Minot, ND; Terre Haute, IN; Columbus, OH; Grand Junction, CO; La Crosse, WI; Missoula MT; Twin Falls, ID; Columbus-Tupelo, MS; Ft. Smith AR; Laredo, TX; Odessa, TX; Wausau, WI.
Uplink Comparison Range: 02/04/2009 12:07P - 02/04/2009 12:42P
Channel Additions:
134 - SHNBC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 11 ConUS beam (A)
134 - SHNBC [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar8 77W TP 12 ConUS beam (A)
Channel Removals:
621 - ARYDI (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam
651 - ARYOW (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam
903 - AAGTV (A) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam
6103 - ARYDI (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 08 ConUS beam
6105 - ARYOW (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam
6111 - AAGTV (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam
Channel Package Flag Changes:
205 - FXNWS [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 06 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
205 - FXNWS [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar6 72.7W TP 03 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
400 - TENIS [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 05 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
400 - TENIS [MPEG4 SD] - EchoStar8 77W TP 29 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
574 - NDTV [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 02 ConUS beam changed to Available
574 - NDTV [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 08 ConUS beam changed to Available
575 - SAB [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 24 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
575 - SAB [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
588 - BLUE [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
588 - BLUE [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 27 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
588 - BLUE [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
712 - RTR [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 24 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
747 - ARYOW [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 27 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
749 - RKINO [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 27 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
756 - RDSLZ [MPEG AUDIO] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 22 ConUS beam changed to Available (H)
818 - ATN [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 19 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
5131 - KUAC3 [MPEG4 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 13 ConUS beam changed to Available (H)(Fairbanks, AK)
7082(49) - WBME [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 Area 4 beam changed to Available (H)
7172(18) - WMAV [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 05 Area 9 beam changed to Available (H)(Oxford, MS)
7174(14) - WTWV [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 05 Area 9 beam changed to Available (H)(Memphis, TN)
8717(64) - WLLA [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 Area 4 beam changed to Available (H)(Kalamazoo, MI)
8761(30) - WRAY [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 03 Area 5 beam changed to Available (H)(Wilson, NC)
8786(62) - WMFP [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 05 Area 6 beam changed to Available (H)(Lawrence, MA)
8875(21) - WTCE [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 01 Area 2 beam changed to Available (H)(Fort Pierce, FL)
9059(59) - WJEB [MPEG4 SD] - EchoStar8 77W TP 05 ConUS beam changed to Available (H)(Jacksonville, FL)
9118(56) - KDMI [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 15 Area 8 beam changed to Available (H)(Des Moines, IA)
9442(400) - TENIS [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 29 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9442(400) - TENIS [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
Channel Mapdown Changes:
7950 - KTWO EchoStar1 148W TP 21 ConUS beam mapdown of 2 removed (A) (H)(Casper, WY)
7951 - KGWC EchoStar1 148W TP 21 ConUS beam mapdown of 14 removed (A) (H)(Casper, WY)
7952 - KCWY EchoStar1 148W TP 21 ConUS beam mapdown of 13 removed (A) (H)(Casper, WY)
7953 - KFNB EchoStar1 148W TP 21 ConUS beam mapdown of 20 removed (A) (H)(Casper, WY)
8331 - KAZT EchoStar10 110W TP 20 Spotbeam 35 mapdown changed from 27 to 7 (A) (H)(Phoenix, AZ)
9645 - LF1 EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam mapdown of 72 added (A)
9645 - LF1 EchoStar8 77W TP 29 ConUS beam mapdown of 72 added (A)
Channels in the system: 6507
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers
Direct Tv has had them for over 2 years now
Christ i hope its soon i already missed out on the superbowl. Hope it is here by the academy awards!
Have any of you guys tried a simple OTA antenna ($20-$40 or see the youtube video on making your own from coat hangers) ?
Not a Viaable Solution !
This suggestion might work for some people in a Big DMA like Los Angeles,San Francisco where all your locals come out of one area.For us in the Santa Barbara DMA each network comes from a different Central Coast City for example CBS is out of Santa Maria,ABC out of Santa Barbara,NBC out of San Luis Obispo and Fox is only available thru cable or Satellitte.For most of us buying an antenae to receive maybe 1 channel wouldnt be worth the effort or Money,know matter what area you live in on The Central Coast (Santa Barbara DMA) HD signal would only reach so far.
Good suggestion ,just not workable in are area.
This suggestion might work for some people in a Big DMA like Los Angeles,San Francisco where all your locals come out of one area.For us in the Santa Barbara DMA each network comes from a different Central Coast City for example CBS is out of Santa Maria,ABC out of Santa Barbara,NBC out of San Luis Obispo and Fox is only available thru cable or Satellitte.For most of us buying an antenae to receive maybe 1 channel wouldnt be worth the effort or Money,know matter what area you live in on The Central Coast (Santa Barbara DMA) HD signal would only reach so far.
Good suggestion ,just not workable in are area.
I can get ABC HD CBS HD and FOX (Not OTA HD here) but NBC is a no go in Santa Maria at least. The only way to pick up NBC and there affilite CW is if have a mounted antenna 2 storeis up.
I have an OTA antenna as well in Arroyo Grande. I can pick op KSBY @100%, KCOY/KKFX @ 75%, but no KEYT. The Super Bowl was nice this year on NBC, as I hate watching football on Fox in SD. Not sure who saw this, but check out the Retailer chat sticky in the forum. It says that HD locals are coming to Santa Barbara DMA in March!!!!! They might not make that date, but the fact that we're finally on the map is awesome.
god i hope its soon, as time goes by more and more of my favorite fox shows are going hd. Hopefully the will all so add CW even though it has local programming. If it does not come soon, Im about ready to "move"
I hope the Dish site is wrong
AS of this morning, the Dish website shows ABC CBS and NBC in HD but not
Fox.....If we are not getting Fox in HD, that means that after all this waiting all I gain is ABC....like others I can get CBS and NBC OTA. I'm hoping it's just a website error, but with all the other posts from DMAs that are not getting all 4 networks in HD, I am pessimistic.
AS of this morning, the Dish website shows ABC CBS and NBC in HD but not
Fox.....If we are not getting Fox in HD, that means that after all this waiting all I gain is ABC....like others I can get CBS and NBC OTA. I'm hoping it's just a website error, but with all the other posts from DMAs that are not getting all 4 networks in HD, I am pessimistic.
Locals in HD are ON NOW !
Dish Finally Turned on Santa Barbara Locals in HD at 11am Wednesday March 11,although their seems to be a slight lip sync problem,hopefully will get fixed soon.Channels look amazing.Finally are little DMA can enjoy HD..I am so excited to watch Network shows in HD ..Dish Good Job !!
Dish Finally Turned on Santa Barbara Locals in HD at 11am Wednesday March 11,although their seems to be a slight lip sync problem,hopefully will get fixed soon.Channels look amazing.Finally are little DMA can enjoy HD..I am so excited to watch Network shows in HD ..Dish Good Job !!
