SatelliteGuys Live Recap - Dish Retailer Chat 2/4/09

Sorry, I couldn't myself! I was just trying to distinguish between the 2.
No problem. People just don't understand the digital transition at all including the government. If they think that delaying it is going to make things better they got another thing coming. All this is going to do is confuse the already confused public.
 
Unfortunately, you are wrong about the TurboHD packages. It does apply to the Absolute HD. It makes good sense with Absolute, because its a package they want to get rid of. So, if you want new HD, then you drop Absolute and take something else. Dish wins. There's absolutely no way that you can win by staying with Absolute.

And if you really do have a friend that works for Dish and is passing sensitive info along to you;then he should be fired! And Dish does monitor this site. And sorry, being a janitor at Dish headquarters or the Uplink Center, doesn't qualify him as an Dish Employee!

AWWW so cleaning toilets makes you no expert?
 
You're correct, but also wrong;). HD was originally analog. The Japanese were the first to sucessfully broadcast HD in the 1950's.

But, having said that; Dish IS NOT REQUIRED to provide you with HD locals. Which was the point I was trying to make.


Ummm it was the French who had HDTV working first not japan. US Europeans had it first.

On November 20, 1948, future French president [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Mitterrand"]François Mitterrand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Fran%C3%A7ois_Mitterrand_1959.JPG" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Fran%C3%A7ois_Mitterrand_1959.JPG"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/3/3c/Fran%C3%A7ois_Mitterrand_1959.JPG[/ame] decreed a broadcast standard of 819 lines; broadcasting began at the end of 1949 in this definition.
"The French TV system was arguably the world's first [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDTV"]High-definition television - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Question_book-new.svg" class="image"><img alt="Question book-new.svg" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/99/Question_book-new.svg/50px-Question_book-new.svg.png"@@AMEPARAM@@en/thumb/9/99/Question_book-new.svg/50px-Question_book-new.svg.png[/ame] system"

Japan had the earliest working HDTV system, with design efforts going back to 1979. The country began broadcasting analog HDTV signals in the late 1980s using an interlaced resolution of 1035 or 1080 active lines (1035i) or 1125 total lines.

taken from
Analog high-definition television system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
AWWW so cleaning toilets makes you no expert?

I wouldn't know anything about cleaning toliets. Sounds to me like a job for a single mother that needs to support her kids. But, yes, I am an expert at some things, especially when or if it pertains to business. Think about it. Why would Dish add new HD to a package (Absolute) that they cannot raise the price on? Adding new HD to all other packages is the only way that they can increase revenue using HD as the selling point.

Many subs thought Dish screwed up by offering Absolute, when in fact, they have you right where they want you. It's time for Absolute Subs to sh*t or get off the pot. Don't come here crying because you don't get new HD when you knew that was the price that you had to pay to keep Absolute and that cost. You know the problem, you have the solution, so act upon it, or just shut the hell up about it! I'm sure I'm not the only one that's tired of hearing your inside dish info Bullsh!t!
 
Ummm it was the French who had HDTV working first not japan. US Europeans had it first.

On November 20, 1948, future French president François Mitterrand decreed a broadcast standard of 819 lines; broadcasting began at the end of 1949 in this definition.
"The French TV system was arguably the world's first HDTV system"

Japan had the earliest working HDTV system, with design efforts going back to 1979. The country began broadcasting analog HDTV signals in the late 1980s using an interlaced resolution of 1035 or 1080 active lines (1035i) or 1125 total lines.

taken from
Analog high-definition television system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you're going to try to disprove something, you might want to find a more reliable resource than Wikipedia. Anyone can post there. I could post that the moon is made from cheese, and it wouldn't be true. But, you could find it there.
 
Ummm it was the French who had HDTV working first not japan. US Europeans had it first.

On November 20, 1948, future French president François Mitterrand decreed a broadcast standard of 819 lines; broadcasting began at the end of 1949 in this definition.
"The French TV system was arguably the world's first HDTV system"

Japan had the earliest working HDTV system, with design efforts going back to 1979. The country began broadcasting analog HDTV signals in the late 1980s using an interlaced resolution of 1035 or 1080 active lines (1035i) or 1125 total lines.

taken from
Analog high-definition television system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Didn't you see that episode of 30 Rock a couple of weeks ago?
 
Well... I'm glad to see Fox News HD, as I have that with Comcast now, and am TRYING to leave Comcast for Dish... Looks like I won't be moving to Dish till spring though because of the location of the dish in the yard.

So hopefully MY SPRING and E*'s SPRING are the same, because I ONLY want to get the HD offerings, and REALLY REALLY want to make sure I have Comedy Central. :)
 
If you're going to try to disprove something, you might want to find a more reliable resource than Wikipedia. Anyone can post there. I could post that the moon is made from cheese, and it wouldn't be true. But, you could find it there.

Didn't you see that episode of 30 Rock a couple of weeks ago?

Look, System E was 819 lines. It's a fact. Just because the guy picked Wikipedia as a source doesn't make it false. It's actually a pretty great source for these sort of things, because 15 year old boys usually don't have a stake in posting false entries on 50 year old engineering topics.

Now, whether it could really be called anywhere close to HD is debatable, since there are many other factors other than number of scan lines. I'm willing to bet 99% of us have never seen System E, so it's hearsay. (Plus, I believe most receivers weren't even capable to displaying the full resolution.)
 
+1

Take it from someone in Columbus, OH... Seeing much smaller cities like Dayton & Toledo & Youngstown scheduled to get HD locals before Columbus is really infuriating! :mad: (DirecTV added HD Locals to Columbus over a year ago!)

Yeah I think news seals the deal. I actually waited a year for Ciel-2 knowing that Tucson, AZ was on the list in Jan 2008. That map with 100 spots! So now it is Feb 2009 and they list all these new locations and no Tucson.

12 years with dish.. wow.. Unreal.
 
Yeah I think news seals the deal. I actually waited a year for Ciel-2 knowing that Tucson, AZ was on the list in Jan 2008. That map with 100 spots! So now it is Feb 2009 and they list all these new locations and no Tucson.

12 years with dish.. wow.. Unreal.

I am contacting all the local stations here in Tucson (KVOA, KGUN, KMSB, KOLD) because I want answers to why we aren't getting HD locals. I already sent ceo@dishnetwork.com an angry email about it; haven't heard back yet.

It is really crazy to me. Tucson is #68 in DMA rankings. How in the WORLD does Cheyenne, WY, #198, get them!?!?!?!?!? Not to mention them and a ton of other smaller markets.

By my observations, Tucson is now the highest ranking DMA with no promise to when we are getting Local HD. If this doesn't change I think I will be forced to go with D*. It is just inexcusable when D* has had locals here over a year now.
 
Just because the guy picked Wikipedia as a source doesn't make it false. It's actually a pretty great source for these sort of things, because 15 year old boys usually don't have a stake in posting false entries on 50 year old engineering topics.

Actually this is really only true if you already understand the reference you are looking up on Wikipedia and just needed a quick reference. For new topics it's very important to follow up with additional resources besides Wikipedia.

The reason is that any page is easy for someone to edit. In fact Wikipedia frequently combats Wikipedia SPAMMING where false content is placed in all the time. 15 year old posts like the moon is green cheese is easy for the moderators to spot and correct.

Technical reference material is extremely difficult to feret out false references without experts of that content being the moderator. For example, what if I changed the Analog TV page to include how it was really made possible by the "encabulator" :D

Check this video out for example, a great engineers joke. But for the common internet "joe", the technical terms could make it sound very factual. If you thought it was real after watching it, you likely are a wikipedia moderator and help proove that the content there is not always accurate.

Newer video spoofing the next one. Of course, the biggest difference is that the Retro-Encabulator uses the
modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive directance
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w]YouTube - Rockwell Retro Encabulator[/ame]

Here's the one that was spoofed by above:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVZ8Ko-nss4&feature=related]YouTube - Turbo Encabulator - Rockwell[/ame]

Now, here's your chance to create whatever you want about the "encabulator" on Wikipedia! Have lot's of fun! Put in all kinds of techno babbledy gook. :hungry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encabulator Just click on the "Start the Encabulator article".

Now that you've got your editting skills completed, you too can now rewrite history and facts to your hearts content on Wikipedia.
 
. . . There's absolutely no way that you can win by staying with Absolute. . . \

I realize your comment was about AbsoluteHD customers not being able to get all these great new 2009 HD channels :rolleyes: but actually, as long as I can keep AbsoluteHD, I feel like I've already won. I'm quite happy getting almost every HD channel for $20 less than TurboHD Gold subscribers. It's literally a $240/year discount for not getting Fox News HD and Encore. Sounds like a winner to me! I just hope they allow me to keep it forever. From the sound of it, no new HD channels of interest to me are coming this year, and maybe never. If they really try to force me to switch to another package, I'll probably just jump ship, which means they lose. Either way, I win.
 
Pretty disappointing for me. I think it is time for me to see what the competition is offering in terms of HD
 
When you pay for local stations. And when you pay for HD local stations. Are you entitled to HD local stations from DISH? I am so disappointed. Tell me I am dead wrong.
 
When you pay for local stations. And when you pay for HD local stations. Are you entitled to HD local stations from DISH? I am so disappointed. Tell me I am dead wrong.
What are you asking exactly? If you sub to locals and HD locals become available, and you have the proper equipment/setup, then you get the HD LiLs.
 
March 2 - Earnings Call (-102k subs :eek:)
March 3 - Fox News officially goes Bronze (now they are saying the 5th)

March 5 - All American Direct East coast market changes from Atlanta to NYC
March 9 - Charlie Chat (Monday channel 101 at 9pm)
March 12- Retail Chat (Thursday unavailable to most of us at noon)
 

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