Uplinked vs. Available

mike123abc

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Having a new channel uplinked is usually a sign that Dish is at least in negotiations with the channel provider. In some cases they take the channel up and down a lot and never reach an agreement (like they did with YES for a few years).

If they never reach an agreement the channel never becomes available to subscribers.
 

epauladams

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Having a new channel uplinked is usually a sign that Dish is at least in negotiations with the channel provider. In some cases they take the channel up and down a lot and never reach an agreement (like they did with YES for a few years).

If they never reach an agreement the channel never becomes available to subscribers.


I agree with the above answers, but I wonder how that works with HD locals.

Take the Oklahoma city locals for example, because E already has agreements in place to re-transmit their SD programming will they have to come to a new agreement to show the Hd , or is this just a testing phase?
 

garys

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Take the Oklahoma city locals for example, because E already has agreements in place to re-transmit their SD programming will they have to come to a new agreement to show the Hd , or is this just a testing phase?

SD agreements do not mean HD agreements are in place, plus testing has to be done in insure proper delivery of the channels. Dish receives the signals in different ways (sd and Hd channels from same dma can be obtained in a different way). They cannot just put them up and turn them on.
 

Hall

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SD agreements do not mean HD agreements are in place
Don't we wish it did though ! The unknown today regarding HD locals is 1) can Dish and the provider not agree on terms, 2) does Dish not have the capacity, or 3) a combination of both.

The one benefit of the analog shut-off in 2009 is that there won't be separate analog channel vs digital channel carriage agreements since there won't be analog channels. Of course, will the TV stations then separate their channels, saying "you can continue carrying (digital) channel 7-2 in place of (analog) channel 7 but we need a separate agreement for (digital) channel 7-1". :(
 

DWS44

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The one benefit of the analog shut-off in 2009 is that there won't be separate analog channel vs digital channel carriage agreements since there won't be analog channels. Of course, will the TV stations then separate their channels, saying "you can continue carrying (digital) channel 7-2 in place of (analog) channel 7 but we need a separate agreement for (digital) channel 7-1". :(

I would think the latter part would be the case, because even though you wouldn't have analog vs. digital, you'll still have SD vs. HD
 

Hall

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That won't work for all stations though (thankfully). My local CBS has (3) channels, one analog, one digital simulcast of the analog, and a weather channel. I doubt they'll replace the weather channel with the analog channel come 2009....

The local ABC currently has no digital sub-channel, nor does the FOX station. Only NBC has an SD (digital) simulcast of the analog in addition to the HD simulcast.
 

Smith P.

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Hmm how can a channel be made availble without being uplinked..must be some sort of relationship there;)

Reports named as "uplinked" when in reality it is "Changes in System Tables"; no info posting about SIGNALS and REAL CONTENT of some part of the reports if it not available for visual inspection.
 

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